Yuyutsu,
>Could anything happen without or against God's will?

Yes it could. God has given us the power to defy His will.

Dear Philip,

Without God one cannot speak of neither good nor evil.
Without God there is no point to life either, nor anything wrong in murder.
That being the case, no evil was done in NZ so nobody is to blame.
That being the case, my previous post is also irrelevant.

Analysis and blame are two very different things.
The former is appropriate, the latter is not.

One does not need to be a bible bashing Christian in order to pray. I for one am not. Even when prayer fails to change the physical situation, it gives us the fortitude and resilience to instead use whatever happened to us for our spiritual upliftment.

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Dear Aidan,

God has given us the power to do things that make us feel as if we are defying His will.

The human will is only seemingly separate from the will of God. It is our illusion.

Yuyutsu, god is a construct of weak minded humans & has no effect on any practical thing.

Dear Hasbeen,

«Yuyutsu, god is a construct of weak minded humans & has no effect on any practical thing.»

This must have been the attitude of the NZ murderers and all other murderers, rapists, robbers and drug-lords for that matter.

If that attitude was true, then you yourself would have been a construct of weak minded humans, for if you look carefully into what God is (as opposed to popular prevailing cultural concepts of God, which do have their place), you will conclude that there can be nothing but God - including yourself!

Foxy Quote "This attack show the point in which hostility to Islam and Muslims has reached. This hateful discourse and commentary against Islam and Muslims is turning into a perverse and murderous ideology.
It needs to be held accountable. The world must raise its voice against this type of discourse and it must stop Islamophobic attacks - it must stop the hatred - because like a cancer it is spreading and infecting people."

** Eloquently put but why don't I hear the same rhetoric out of you when there are atrocities by radicals against Christians, non muslims and others? **
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I posted this comment by JFK.
** "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." **

And all you could come back with was quote "JFK was right. Violence only begets violence."

He did not mean "Violence only begets violence." for you to say that and believe that is what he meant, only demonstrates your ignorance.

There is a conflict in culture, and that conflict has it's factors from Islamic communities that are easily radicalized into violent indivuals and mobs, to countries that have both half heartedly welcome radicalized Islam into their mists (by some people) as well as reject and isolate Islam and fight to remove it (held by others).

Nothing gets done and nothing gets resolved to make peace, or to at least serve justice when the wrongs of Islamic violence are done. With conditions like that, counter radicalization cultures are very much likely to pop up. It's the open breeding ground for radicalized nationalism, and even just radicalized vigilantism (without a political manifesto added to it).

Want this to not happen again. Then the hard task is to

1) Fix the justice system, so that justice is served when Islamic violence is served to anyone like it was to Hasbeen's son.

And

2) Either find peace with the Muslims living there now, or find a way to kick them out. This finding peace is almost an impossible task because many come to western counties hating everything that western societies represent. So accepting us is as much the task (if not more) as us accepting them. If you can't find peace then radicalized Islam will continue to be a thing, which will only fuel a counter radicalization.

I would settle with just fixing the justice system so that people aren't as easily radicalized into their version of vigilantism, because there's at least some trust in justice being served by the cops and the courts.

For now though, give the Muslim population something you would also want if your community suffered a violent massacre. Kindness and comfort in the days and week that follows the attack. (Not enough to again resist justice if violent Islamic mobs do their thing again, but at least some because kindness in a time of morning is worth doing).