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Proportionally - where does the blame lay.
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Posted by individual, Thursday, 21 March 2019 8:30:07 PM
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Josephus, what on earth is "progressive Biblical revelation" sounds like a fancy euphemism to sugar coat the nasty biblical bits. I will say the Christian god has been reinvented several times over the ages. A short while ago your god was presented as a hateful vengeful god intent on punishment, today there has been a shift to a more merciful loving god intent on forgiveness. The book hasn't changed, just mainstream Christian attitude as evident by the fact that in 2019 I can bang on the keyboard and say these things. In 1619 it would have been a different story, I'd be a pile of ashes at the bottom of a burn stake.
The notion that all Muslims are a homogeneous lot who engage in the one line of literal thinking based on the fundamentalism of the Koran is untrue. Its no more truer than to say all Christians are fundamentalists who take every word of the Bible literally. Muslim extremism is a political movement which has grown out of secular grievances, its not religious. The commonality of religion and the extremism contained in some parts of the text of Islam has been used as a focus to legitimise and justify the call for action. This is evident in the fact extremists, using the Islamic religion as justification, kill more Muslims than Christians. If the intention is to unite all Muslims against all Christians in a religious war the extremist are going about it in the wrong way, alienating the majority of their own through act of terror against them wont work for them. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 22 March 2019 6:12:56 AM
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Paul, the writings attributed to Moses were written to a developing nation to give them direction and law among pagan cultures. Through the following history of Israel, schools of prophets gave warnings to the nation for their interaction with other nations, behaviours and beliefs. Jesus opens up a new understanding by his messages, "You have heard it said, but I say'. Read Matthew's sermon on the Mount, e.g. you shall not murder; but I say if you have a hate in your heart that you wish him dead you have as good as murdered [paraphrase]. If you have lust in your heart for sex with someone not your wife, you have already committed adultery [paraphrase].
Ideas have greater power than the gun, the pen is mightier than the sword. The web post below, I watched the interview but it seems to have been removed because of promoting terror. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/i-have-nothing-more-to-say-cnns-stelter-battles-islamic-cleric-over-hannity-propaganda/ Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 23 March 2019 7:24:27 AM
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Foxy,
All you have to do is to get muslims to stop their terrorist actions and the violence will stop. Have you thought of that. Easy is it not? Posted by HenryL, Saturday, 23 March 2019 9:05:46 AM
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Paul, understand what is the Muslim Caliphate. Which is a "call to hate" anything not prescribed by Allah and bring it unto submission [= Islam]. Anyone bearing that ideology that is their mission. Silence all opposition as it is not of Allah. They have a licence to murder anyone not living and following Allah's laws. e.g. A woman found in adultery is to be stoned to death [compare Jesus words John 8].It is not a new revelation they hate Western values and laws. As they rise in power they will introduce Shariah law. In their mind women are lesser creatures who are responsible for sin.
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj7-fvsn5fhAhWbfH0KHRFTBeQQFjABegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2019%2F03%2F06%2Fworld%2Fmiddleeast%2Fnasrin-sotoudeh-iran-head-covering.html&usg=AOvVaw2_cZvvAb0FzGfhUJxDx4iV http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796747/David-Jones-goes-inside-Britains-secretive-sharia-courts-special-report.html Your quote: Muslim extremism is a political movement which has grown out of secular grievances, its not religious. Your claims are laughable. Is not borne out of grievances, it is a prescribed religious law, to bring the whole World under Allah's law. It has been a movement of such for 1,400 years, of hate of others laws and values. However the Greens and Labor are giving them succour by carrying on about extremism and hate speech, when in Islam's eyes they bear no guilt for their action as they are doing Allah's will. It will not cease while they are reading the Koran and listening to Imams. Posted by Josephus, Saturday, 23 March 2019 12:50:14 PM
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I blame the TV networks.
If they had not shown a couple of tall New York buildings falling to the ground, or ISIS beheadings, the general population of western countries may nor have known what disgusting hateful acts Muslims promote & glory in. Hell if they had not shown a Turkey Prime minister threatening to send Ozzie tourists home in caskets, we may even be stupid enough to not know Muslims hate infidels. Where does the blame lay? Come on folks. Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 23 March 2019 1:51:14 PM
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With Sheeple & progressives !