Shadow Minister not sure what you get out of protecting what you name over stayers
But the do work here
Even as we have seen in Embassy's or the homes of staff from them
Sydneys China town is constantly raided and arrests made
Fruit picking is the same, as are some areas of construction
Black market jobs, under paid because the worker dare not complain, are all over the country

Well we've gone from Paul telling us that One Nation has " no direct policy to combat the most serious of immigration problems" to... well they do have a policy but Paul doesn't like it.

One wonders whether Paul knew they had a policy all along because he did proper research before making his silly claims OR he just made the claims hoping that it was true and no one would check it out. I guess we'll never know because Paul has a policy of fleeing a thread the moment he's caught out.

Just like that other thread on small parties where I asked him "It'd be interesting to know whether you made this false comparison [between the Nats and the Greens] because you utterly misunderstand the the issue or because you thought you could slip it through." He hasn't been sighted in that thread since he was exposed.

But pathetic as all that is, the truly hilarious part of this is his lament that the One Nation policy is "unfunded". A Green supporter crying that someone else's policy is unfunded!

Irony or hypocrisy? Hard to choose....probably both.

Belly & others, just to make it clear, overstayers do need to be put
on the first plane after they are caught.
The very worse cases are those virtual slaves where they are confined
to a work premises, such as women sex workers.
They should be the easiest to pick up as they advertise their wares
and can send male border force officers in and ask the girls for their passports.
Now the proprietor probably has them locked away somewhere but it
would not take much intimidation to force them to be handed over.
Charges of people smuggling are severe.
The same applies with the agriculture workers.

Self organised overstayers would be harder to detect as many will
work in ethnic (Chinese) businesses for cash in hand.
In one doco I saw Immigration people went into a clothing factory
and shouted "immigration officers please show your documentation"
and it showed them running like cockroaches when you turn a light on.
It was in the UK I think from memory.

Paul1405 Liar Quote "rubbish opinion, //can be more easily kicked out of Australia.// Obviously not, there are over 64,000 of them"

** My mistake I erroneously credited you and the other lefties with the intelligence to understand kicked out (for you) WHEN CAUGHT. Ignorance is not an excuse but you seem to possess more than your share. **

Belly, Also as stated a lot of jobs lazy Australians won't do. That is the Governments job to force them to work.

Think it is bad now if Shorten gets in and increases the dole by $75 there will be thousands more.

Bazz - There was an article around a week ago that the most businesses with illegal sex workers found by police were in Canberra.

Shadow, do you just make things up to suit your way of thinking?

//most of them (overstayer) do get caught and deported.//

Not according to the evidence presented before the Senate hearing.
of 64,600 overstayers as at 30th June 2017. There were;

12,000 been here 20 years plus.
11,000 2 to 5 years.
6,600 15 to 20 years.

That's over 60%, and bet your bottom dollar, many of the above have been able to "normalise" themselves into Australian society.

Shadow, as your favorite gal would say; Please explain!

Lets cut to the chase, and you can see that I have clearly shown the want-a-be's from the rabid right, the Hanson's, the Bernardi's and the Dutton's of this country are really not that interested in boarder security and illegal immigration. These guys want to kick arse when it comes to refugees and asylum seekers, to suit their political agenda, but not surprising they want to turn a blind eye when the entire town of Bundaberg, figuratively speaking, are walking around illegally. No doubt some of these illegals are breaking into your house, stealing your car, selling your kids drugs. And what is the policy of the extreme towards these illegals, well if we catch them we might kick them out, very whisy-washy.

What would I do, I will declare an amnesty for anyone who has resided illegally in the country for more than two years, long term people, from day zero. I would give them one year to turn themselves in. At which time they would be given two options; One, leave Australia voluntarily, and we will wave you goodbye, jail for criminals first. Two, apply for Australian citizenship, and providing you meet certain criteria, such as you can support yourself in society, and you have not committed serious crime, giving those people citizenship, and all the rights that go with it. Those that don't turn themselves in, a minimum of two years jail, plus jail if involved in crime, followed by confiscation of assets, and deportation. Extra boarder security offices tasked with tracking down all overstayers, short and long term.

Paul1405 Liar I like some of your thoughts, just out of interest will you apply the same or a similar criteria to welfare for lifers.

For example.
If they refused to learn English like a number have, will you deport them?

If they can't find work within X period of time will you deport them?

If they arrived with no documents will you subject them too full ASIO check?

Better still no documents (passport etc) no entry, what will you do?

Any found to have criminal convictions in the country they came from will you deport them?

What about the ones who have returned to where they escaped from to enjoy holidays?

What about ones who commit crimes here?