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The Real illegal Immigration Problem

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Paul etc,

Like I said, more data for you to ignore and any 'reason' will suffice.

Your original unresearched assertion was that all those on the right don't really care about the visa overstayers because they are a more acceptable religion or colour...or something.

Doing the research that you neglected to do, I've now shown you that One Nation are indeed interested in resolving the issue and that the current government would like more powers to alleviate the issue.

And your response has been to ignore the former and dismiss the later on totally spurious grounds.

If you think this is the way intellectual discourse works you'd be wrong. Ignoring data because it doesn't suit your prejudices simply means that your claims are, if not utterly invalidated, are at least made questionable.

Basically, what is clear is that you formulated a theory based on zero data, zero research and zero thinking to try to demonstrate hypocrisy among those you despise. And instead you demonstrated your own hypocrisy and lack of reason. Own goal. Better luck next time.

Oh and a little more for you to ignore in your search for something you'd like to be the truth....

"Conservative Party leader Cory Bernardi has been calling for the government to clean up the visa system to stop these kind of rip-off rorts."
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 7 February 2019 5:58:59 AM
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mhaze, lighten up lad, and get off your high horse, and produce this so called data. DATA definition; facts and statistics collected together for reference or analysis.

"Conservative Party leader Cory Bernardi has been calling for the government to clean up the visa system to stop these kind of rip-off rorts." Where is the Australian Conservatives policy on overstayers. At least One Nation had a vague few words on the subject in their policy. I said it seems they don't, I never said they didn't, a lie from you. Glad you were able to find some obscure reference, be it ever so small, among all the other policy material.

Where is the evidence Bernardi has been doing that, I don't hang of his every word, maybe you do. As for Dutton the legislation has been in place from well before he was a Ministerm, legislation to taken action on overstayers, Dutton failed to do so.

//Your original unresearched assertion was that all those on the right don't really care about the visa overstayers because they are a more acceptable religion or colour...or something.//

Liar, firstly I did not refer to all on the right, what I said was "the above two political parties seem to have no direct policy to combat the most serious of immigration problems."
As for the second part because they are a more acceptable religion or colour...or something, distorting what I actually said; "Why is that? Is it religion, is it colour, is it where these people come from, or is it some other reason that sees such a disparity in immigration policy from both One Nation and The Australian Conservatives."

Clearly asking others to answer a question, it was not a rhetorical question where I gave an answer.

Under the accepted Philip S conventional garbage I should now refer to you as;
mhaze liar.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 7 February 2019 9:00:03 AM
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Philip S.,

The difference between us is that I do not pursue
people over several posts repeating abuse. I also
do not start the abuse. I react to it - yes,
most people do. However my point
in giving the recent link on guides to netiquette
was meant to give us all something to think about
prior to posting. Once again I see that the message
went right over your head.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 February 2019 9:28:06 AM
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Quote "One piece of the tabloid gutter press, the foreign arm, has taken to quoting the local tabloid gutter press. Nothing like a bit of spicy "news" provided by a government insider, if they really exist. A GI could be anyone from the Prime Minister down to the clearer at parliament house. Used so often by the muck rakers as the source of "news"."

Like usual dear Paul can't discuss or deny the article so attacks the source of the article.

Foxy you are just a hypocrite that wants to tell others what to do but says nothing about the abuse and insults from your dear paul and others in your lefty group, until you and Belly say something to them don't bother with your self righteousness the more you say the more you prove to others I am right in calling you out as a hypocrite.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 7 February 2019 10:38:21 AM
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Foxy once more it is not worth responding to, level headed conversation is becoming rare here
Worth the effort to try keeping it alive
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 7 February 2019 10:58:31 AM
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Philip S.,

I do point out abuse where it is warranted.
I have always done so. My posting record
speaks for itself over the decades. Even
with my latest link - I've made an attempt
to get people to think before posting.
What you need to do is - instead of brushing
things aside and putting the blame onto others.
Take a good look at yourself and see how you
can improve your posts. Give it a go.
The reactions you may get could surprise you.
At least - try it. Calling others hypocrites
is simply the tactic of a bully.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 7 February 2019 11:32:06 AM
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