Paul,

You seem to have a feeble grasp on reality, a condition suffered by most of the gangreens.

Every year Aus gets about 7.4m tourists on limited time visasand while a tiny few overstay, the number is so small as not to create problems as those on a tourist visa cannot legally work, get medicare etc, and the vast majority of these return when promted.

Similarly about 200 000 2yr work holiday visas are granted annually, and these youngsters can work, get medicare, get Aus drivers licenses, etc, again, the vast majority do not overstay their visas, most that do also leave willingly when prompted, and the 20 000 remainder that do overstay for a longer period have various reasons such as having married an Aussie etc which are normally resolved through partner visas etc.

So to compare the 20 000 visa over-stayers that essentially cost the Aus taxpayer little to nothing, against the 50 000 economic migrants that destroyed their papers and cost the taxpayer about $10bn is a joke.

The reference "blowhards and hot heads" was aimed at spokespersons for the two political parties named. Particularly Hanson and Bernardi, who are the public faces articulating party policy on immigration, and everything else for that matter.

Both One Nation and the Australian Conservatives are outspoken critics of refugees entering the country, they have a clear policy on that. My question is if these parties are so concerned with "illegals" as they like to refer to them as, why don't they have a clear policy to deal with the large number of "overstayers". For parties that are forthright on boarder security, they seem rather casual when it comes to these other "illegals".

No one here admits to having any inside knowledge on this, or can given a definitive explanation, has Hanson or Bernardi every made comment on this serious problem. No one here will even fess up to being a party member, it must be the joining fee that holds them back.

BTW fellas, having moved to a new location in Queensland, very marginal LNP seat, I'm thinking of rejoining the Labor Party, after 30 years. My Greens NSW membership expires next month, not that I find the Greens disagreeable, I think my immediate efforts should be placed to help in some small way to dislodge the incompetent Coalition from government. Plus the fact the redneck parties seem to be stronger here and need to be countered as much as possible.

Paul,
I am very happy to support the policies of Australian Conservatives, and the work also of Peter Dutton who has similar values to One Nation. These parties want a cohesive nation upholding the Constitution, and not one of diverse loyalties to other political systems. Like the Greens who espouse atheistic communism and destructive social policy.

Paul if so welcome back
You have an interesting truth in that post
Conservatives will struggle, even with one nation, to have an impact out side Queensland
Our deep north has always been like that, Mexican migrants?
In my time there Victorians owned just about every thing
When insult is needed not rational debate you have won in my view

From One Nations immigration policy:

"
Unfortunately the increasing numbers of illegal migrants is sourced through our airports on visitors’ visas. A properly controlled visitor program will ensure tourists are welcome in Australia but ONE NATION will ensure that the detection of illegal migrants for deportation is properly funded and administered."

I wonder just how much ignorance of politics is based on a lack of research. Perhaps Paul can let us know

Mhase,
A big thank you for ferreting out that One Nation policy. Paul could have saved himself the egg on his face and embarrassment if he had bothered to check the facts before his accusations.

So Paul eats crow as One Nation is apparently aware of an increasing problem and has a policy to deal with it. Paul should inform us just what the greens policy is in relation to the over stayers.

Belly, it appears your congratulations to Paul was just a tad too soon as he has not won anything. Bit like Labors folly of schemes under Rudd and Gillard. No research done.