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The Real illegal Immigration Problem

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Henry L do not remember the ugliness in your old name posts
Paul I think but may be wrong, highlighted the truth
Much more angst can be seen about boat people than the much larger number of over stayers
And had you read both Paul,s then my post, you would see the welcome back was based on him maybe returning to Labor
The party forming the next government
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 3:39:44 PM
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"ONE NATION will ensure that the detection of illegal migrants for deportation is properly funded and administered."

A unfunded wishy-washy policy if ever I saw one, tells us nothing. One Nation is rather more specific and forthright on asylum seekers and refugees policy.

* Remove Australia from the U.N. Refugee Convention.
* Travel Ban from Known Extremist Countries.
* Application for asylum in the first safe country they (asylum seekers) reach.

In the first instance the policy is contained in a dozen or so words, with no specific details at all. The second policy runs to a few hundred words and details a specific course of action. There is a difference.

Now, if One Nation had said they would allocate an extra $50 million to engage an additional 500 boarder security agents specially tasked with the duty of detaining illegal overstayers, then we could see that as a concrete policy.

Why I target ON and AC on this is one of the corner stones of the existence of these parties is a tough stance on immigration and boarder security. I would expect a far more detailed policy regarding overstayers, than has been offered, they have a detailed policy concerning refugees/asylum seekers. Why the disparity?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 3:46:15 PM
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Is Mise,

No, it's the brain-dead whingers to avoid.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 3:51:22 PM
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Hmmm lot of prancing about.
First, assylum seekers can only claim to be refugees at the first safe country they enter.
Those that arrive in Australia by fishing boat from Indonesia are
illegals, as they paid for and went by air to Indonesia.
Otherwise they are economic illegal immigrants. UNRHC.

As far as overstayers are concerned with the linked RMS, Medicare, Tax,
Dept Foreign Affairs, Police, Electricity, Water, BDM, Workers Comp,
Council Rates, Renters, Bank, schools data bases it would be very hard
to exist in this society and be undetectable.
Such tricks as using names on grave stones of children born around
the same time as yourself are well known and easily picked up.
Try generating records in medicare or tax or school or someone who did
not exist 10 years ago.
They have photos of them so a search of drivers licences would be useful.
If they have even 10,000 overstayers they are not looking very hard.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 3:52:10 PM
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Bazz you will know until recently it was possible and not illegal to listen in to some police radio
Not now, terrorism stopped that
But even traffic stops saw inquires in to the right to be in Australia checked always
Some detainees are over stayers
I have said in the past here and say it again
Boarder protection will become much tougher here and in most country,s
Not what some want to hear but what most demand
IF we spent the money offshore detention costs on aid? true well managed aid
Maybe less refugees,
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 5:48:45 PM
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Belly Quote "IF we spent the money offshore detention costs on aid? true well managed aid Maybe less refugees,"

Rubbish opinion, your only saving grace is you used the word "maybe" or you would relentlessly ridiculed. Billion of dollars have gone to Africa and other countries by Western nations and still the people come.

The magnet is welfare for life without having to do anything to get it.
Also getting preferential treatment in the country like Australia.

Why can't you get into your head generally over stayers are self supporting and can be more easily kicked out of Australia.

Paul1405 Liar Quote "Now, if One Nation had said they would allocate an extra $50 million to engage an additional 500 boarder security agents specially tasked with the duty of detaining illegal overstayers, then we could see that as a concrete policy."

** They can't state anything like that or the media, other parties will ridicule them as to how they will pay it etc because they are not in a position to deliver on it. **
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 6:52:46 PM
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