Philip S.,

If you're so interested in the subject of crime
in Victoria and seem dissatisfied with the
links being provided you can always do your
own searches by clicking onto the Crime
Statistics Agency website or the Victorian Crime
Rates by postcode website, or the Victorian Police
Crime Statistics, or Crime by Location, et cetera,
et cetera.

To me it seems that you've got too much time on
your hands and are simply looking for an argument.
As I've told you numerous times. I'm not interested.
Find someone who is.

Cheers.

Foxy - Again the Claytons answer, the answer you give when you have no answers.

Your are progressing to Master Level.

Hi Phil,

Given the socio-economic circumstances and disproportionate age grouping of Sudanese in Melbourne it is not surprising that they are over represented in crime statistics, particularly offences involving robbery and violence, no one can argue that. Is there organised African gangs in Melbourne, that evidence is hard to find. A gang can be no more than what is organised by text messages on mobile phones. Some politicians will play the law and order card at election time, putting the wind up the electorate to score votes, politicians often overstate the seriousness of the situation.

My question to you is, is this the situation in Melbourne?

Paul1405 I doubt it they are fully organized like the Mafia etc.

But they are organized enough to it seems always be in numerically far greater numbers than the victims on each occasion.

Circumstances they mostly came from nothing to getting everything for nothing, they have too much time and their parents are also to blame.

GEE another one for Foxy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6529223/Vietnamese-community-rallies-fight-against-Sudanese-gangs-terrorising-shops.html

'Enough is enough, we've got to make a stand': Vietnamese community rallies together to fight back against Sudanese gangs terrorising their strip of shops

Vietnamese people in West Melbourne have called on neighbours to fight back
The call was put out to younger generations after elders were filmed being hit
Men of African appearance have allegedly been terrorising St Albans restaurant
Victoria Police are investigating a brawl that left residents terrified on Monday

Young Vietnamese people are vowing to take action after video of their elders being attacked by thugs went viral.

The shocking footage shows people, believed to be shopkeepers, defending themselves with chairs against a group of men of African appearance.

Screaming, shouting and smashing can be heard as the group of Vietnamese people try to push back against the group, who allegedly attacked them after asking for a cigarette and being rejected.

The clip left many young Vietnamese people in the area furious, and they have vowed to band together and fight back.

** Like usual police response **
A spokeswoman for Victoria Police told Daily Mail Australia there was an ongoing investigation into the fight, but no charges had been laid yet.

Phil, it is of concern that your links seem often to be to the Daily Mail UK, a well known British tabloid. Is there any local reports that might be of more substance than what is reported in some trashy pommy paper.
That is no to say that there is not some truth in what you claim.

Paul1405 - Nice try but a big fail.

If you bothered to go to the link with an open mind rather than in TROLL mode up the top you would have seen this.

Mail Online

Home News U.S. - Sport - TV&Showbiz - Australia - Femail - Health

Science - Money - Video - Travel - DailyMailTV

** GEE notice they have an Australian category.

Quote "Is there any local reports that might be of more substance than what is reported in some trashy pommy paper."

So all news by any overseas media outlet can't be trusted, unless it is also reported by an Australian MSM outlet.

Such thinking does not deserve a full reply.

Just out of interest how do you explain the video?