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Are we going to take about Victoria returning Labor

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//By 2050, earlier, probably – all real knowledge of Oldspeak will have disappeared. The whole literature of the past will have been destroyed. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Byron – they’ll exist only in Newspeak versions, not merely changed into something different, but actually changed into something contradictory of what they used to be.//

//People don't understand what Conservatism is.//

"it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
- William Shakespeare
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 2 December 2018 10:05:05 AM
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"ttbn- The Liberal Party is made up of 40% Conservative ..."

That's about right. So that 40% should get off their backsides and form a genuine conservative party; then the wets in the party could carry on as a true liberal party as per the UK version. We could then have conservative, liberal and labour to choose from.

The idea of any politician claiming to be conservative being mixed up with a party having 'liberal' in its title as absolutely stupid. John Howard's 'broad church' description was absolute nonsense. If you don't have a party made up of members with the same values, wanting to represent voters with those same values, them the whole thing is a waste of time.

If people want SSM and other perversions, they can vote Labor. Those of us who don't want such things should be able to vote for party that also doesn't agree with such things, and democracy will take care of which party is elected. But there is no party that any longer caters for conservatives in Australia. The Liberal party has cynically gone with any crap that they think will get them elected; they have no values or principles at all.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 2 December 2018 10:34:23 AM
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Some of us will need to get their shoes off for this, mathematics
A word that in the end says who will rule us after an election
Hence the Liberal coalition Nationals, and Liberals, with thier pup wandering along behind one motion
Labor too has its left and right, the greens, our refugees, some times vote with us
We call the above big tent party,s
Of late, that 40 percent of Liberalism, far from Liberal in practice,has told the other 60 percent to? leave quickly
Now yes! a fourth power, lets call it the right of reality Liberals, could join in a coalition
How please tell me, would that be any different than today,s cat fight
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 December 2018 11:35:27 AM
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Nobody is truly stopping those unhappy with the current
system from doing what they prescribe: finding a community of
like-minded folk, taking to the land, growing their own
food, pulling their children out of public schools, and so on.
Their problem is that they apparently want everyone to do these
things - which suggests that these people may have more in
common with their caricature of "bullying Liberals," than they
care to admit.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 December 2018 12:08:06 PM
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The election saw a swing, against both Liberals and greens
That swing, near all of it, went to Labor
Question, if 40 percent of Liberals are conservative, what is the percentage of voters who stayed with them
Are 40 percent of Liberal voters conservatives
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 December 2018 1:19:06 PM
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Dear Belly,

When your own base - so called rusted on voters
are embarrassed to vote Liberal. As I stated
previously it is time to look very intensely
in the mirror. Many MPs have stated in colourful
language the party is now toxic among women and
young people. It's got to shift
its rhetoric and policy direction. This is a
battle for the identity and values of the
Liberal Party. A battle to restore the party
to its original values.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 2 December 2018 1:33:47 PM
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