https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/get-real-liberals-call-for-new-message-on-climate-social-policy-after-victorian-defeat-2
Every thing I have been saying is in this link
In part those out side the party, shock jocks, past Liberals, hurt the very base of this party Sky News, unable to even match the ABC news flys against the very guts of Liberalism harming by their support a party that must cut some links

Hi Belly,

As I said elsewhere ScuMo has as much chance of winning the next federal election as a snowflakes chances are in hell, he couldn't win a chook raffle if he held all the tickets. The electorate are sick and tied of the self serving bastards, and they are getting worse. No more of the gentlemanly thing of stabbing "friend and colleagues" in the back, they have now resorted to stabbing each other, front on, side on, backwards and forwards, it don't matter no more, its lost. They will try to hang on to the death, and then watch their campaign, it will be a real mud slinger, aided by the likes of the Murdoch gutter press.

Corny Banana and his fascist party, the so called Australian Conservatives, are all piss and wind, they will score four fifths of FA, outside of the Banana Republic, and the Lovely Pauline will probely get all that vote anyway.

Elections are won from the centre.
Foxy,
That'd be a democratic kind of outcome but how do we get a Democracy when minorities can block majority ?

One point of view which was aired today after the huge swing away from the Liberal party was that voters were attracted to the promise of infrastructure - a conservative value. Possible. But it's more likely that the Liberals’ past five of negative polls, and their failure to do anything about it, was the real reason. The federal party is very similar; it's just not getting the message, preferring to believe the utter bullshite that they listen too much to the 'right’ of the party. What right! There are only about three Liberals who could be called right these days. Most of them are 'moderate’, which is a weasel word for 'left’

Individual,

The win in Victoria was by no means a "minority"
win. Victorians rejected "the low road of fear
and division" by voting Labor back into government
as the Liberal/National opposition wonders where it
all went wrong in a state election some have described
as a blood-bath. The Coalition's losses across the
state will make it harder for it to win government in
2022 and the opposition leader must take some of
the blame for running such a negative campaign. His
message did not resonate well. Victorians
overwhelmingly endorsed a positive and optimistic
plan for their state.

"Say what you do, and Do what you say." People support
governments if they do things that improve their lives.
Premier Andrews in his victory speech said that his
government focused on the practical:
upgrading hospitals, new schools, the removal of level
crossings, a huge infrastructure program. If a government
lives its values and keeps its promises it will do well.

Attacking others and just finger-pointing is an outmoded
and no longer a relevant model for political success.
It's time that the Liberal Party learned this lesson.

Talking about election success...

Daniel Andrews won the Victorian state election.
People trusted him and believed him.

Can the same thing be said about Bill Shorten?

Is he capable of leading the federal Labor Party
to victory as Andrews did in Victoria?
Do people trust Mr Shorten?

The federal election may be a totally different
story under Mr Shorten's leadership.
From my observations - he's not in the same league
as Daniel Andrews. Perhaps Mr Shorten should step
aside for Mr Andrews or for a leader like Mr Andrews?

Just a thought.