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Are we going to take about Victoria returning Labor

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All contributions interesting,however Labor is not even near a 60 seat majority
And just as untrue the thought voters went in to the booths with paper bags over their heads, it is untrue
Foxy has given an explanation, one of many all put together seems to prove the result was known long before polls opened
Contrary to the view Liberals moved to the left the opposite seems true.
They abandoned their true base moving to ground the base never occupied
Federal polls this day, seem to point to this being the start of a massive move, away from a right/Conservative LNP voters never called for
Change is needed if they want to win the federal election, it can be done, more next time.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 26 November 2018 11:24:08 AM
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Ttbn- The Conservatives need to start working on the Federal Election now educating the electorate on the issues in clear sound bites. They need to get out and hand out pamphlets on polling day and in the pre-poll, and bring your friends.
Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 26 November 2018 11:25:19 AM
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Foxy,
Unfortunately Nick Xenophon has tweeted that he has no intention of returning to politics. And that's a great shame, as he was certainly one of the best MPs we had. But his campaigning for the state election was truly awful (worse even than Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign). Croweaters loathe political jingles (mainly because of Labor's "Gilligans Island" ad in the '90s) and afterwards his party had too little advertising time left to explain their policies and counter the attack ads that pokies' owners were running.

So now SA has a Liberal government. So far they haven't done much, which means they haven't done much damage, which is probably the best we could have hoped for in the short term.

But Federally the Libs are terribly out of touch. Their base are dying off. They survive on the undeserved reputation of being better economic managers than Labor - but once Labor get in, the Libs will have trouble maintaining that image.
Posted by Aidan, Monday, 26 November 2018 11:29:41 AM
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That federal LNP victory can still take place if they change a few policy,s
Adopt the energy plan Labor has [the very one Liberals intended to use]
Remember even if you think climate change is a fraud voters do not agree, supporting a policy that shed more voters than it delivers is madness
Stop hard right policy in education migration, soften toward a more middle path
For now in my view every Liberal voters, every candidate, show go to the ABC website, read the facts, not an ABC plot
How many votes did the minor party,s, all of them,get highlight the very left and very right
Stop boxing them both ,go with the center and voters not against them
Posted by Belly, Monday, 26 November 2018 11:35:10 AM
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Hi Aidan,

Thanks for the information about Nick Xenophon.
As for the Liberal Party? They need to listen
to people like John Pesutto and Mary Wooldridge in Victoria.
Mathew Guy's campaign was very narrow. I'm not sure what's
going to happen next. Will he be replaced as Liberal Party
leader in Victoria? And by whom? Also it appears that
Michael Kroger's position as President of the Liberal Party
is now also under threat. Jeff Kennett called for his
resignation on Saturday evening.

Not a good look. A more united and supportive
party would be a better strategy. Admitting mistakes - and
learning from this experience is the way to move forward.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 26 November 2018 11:50:39 AM
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Dear Belly,

You're right.

Elections are won from the centre.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 26 November 2018 11:53:02 AM
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