Foxy said -
"Lets look at what are the key values of democracy:
1) The need for free and fair elections.
2) Freedom of speech.
3) Equality before the law.
4) Active citizen participation.
5) Protection of minority rights
Foxy,
where does 5) leave the 19 Anning voters then ?

The first camel drivers the Afghans arrive roughly around 1860,
Foxy,
Thank you for that info. I'd better get onto my old Geography teacher & various Ecyclopedia for making me believe Afghanistan wasn't anywhere near Somalia & the middle easern dust bowls.
See, I too can be as selective as you with evidence.

It's amazing how obvious the 'wrongens' are.
Is it a skill?
To be able to hear truths and yet deny them almost immediately after.
It appears I must remind the naive do-gooders about a poll their very own church, the ABC, did recently.
After all according to their loyal band of followers, if it's the ABC it must be true.
Well the ABC conducted a poll re; Mr Anning and whether or not he should appologise for his comments about migrants.
Here's the first kick in the marble bag;
60% said NO!
And that's taken over 65,000 voters.
The second kick to the marble bag came when our scum backing ABC, closed the poll soon after.
No doubt, because it was not representative of their leftist looser views.
So, as I have been preaching to all and sunder.
You lefty losers are pushing against a tide of reality.
The majority of 'real' and informed people don't want these stupid ignorant ideas put into practice.
We are always allowed to think and work things out for ourselves.
The left seek change for the sake of change.
If it ain't broken leave it the f#(k alone.
You people have been the problem all along.
In your haste to have your irrelevant agenda adopted, you are totally mindless of the fact that the 'real' people don't want you or what your pushing.
Let me say this if I want to be a bigot, racist, and whatever else YOU people consider to be bad, GOOD, I will hold those titles with pride.
Because I am being labelled by a cult of 'nobodies', it is in fact a expression of accolades.
So thank you, you nut jobs, I hope they re-open the mental institutions they closed many years ago, due to budget cuts, and you will be taken care of in the manner you deserve.

Foxy,
"You haven't proven anything."

Well I did prove that he didn't say what you said he said in the speech. And I did prove that there was polling to support his claims. And I did prove that he didn't say what you said he said about African gangs. And....

"BTW - you need to be a bit more selective in who you choose to defend."
I wasn't defending the man...just the facts.

That you think its OK to distort because you disapprove of what he said, says quite a bit. IF the man was so beyond the pale those who seek to close down his voice shouldn't feel the need to distort and dissemble to prove him wrong.

"If you're not "old" how can you explain your behaviour?"

You said I was charming and old. I'm not old but...charming? well if I do say so myself...

You don't need to be old to discover the facts.

I find it more than a little interesting that you think its OK to make errors of fact because your sources were wrong. If I were you I'd spend a little more time checking my sources and a little less rushing to accept confirmatory views.

mhaze,

A couple of things: -

Fraser Anning's claims were fact-checked by several reporters
in quite a few newspaper articles - and while he may not have
referred to Bourke Street in his speech - he did speak and
refer to the incident to political journalist Mark Riley
when Riley spent an hour or so interviewing Anning on
Thursday. So it was not something that was made up. You can
access this information for yourself on the web.

Also Anning's other claims have all been fact-checked and
corrected by the media.

I totally agree that it is important to get the facts correct.
Something that does not seem to concern Mr Anning at all.

cont'd ...

mhaze,

Here's the link:

http://thewest.com.au/opinion/mark-riley/fraser-anning-is-a-senate-stirrer-with-elephants-hide-ng-b88931141z