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Someone Had to Say It !

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/Yes I get that you are triggered by this phrase ('final solution') and perhaps the Senator should have issued trigger-warnings for all those snowflakes who are traumatised//

Yeah, I don't see this issue as being about the politics, as your anti-SJW cliches would suggest you do. I'm so used to condemnation of Nazis being a bipartisan position embraced by Tories and lefties alike that my brain can't seem to process it as a political matter.

Do you really not understand why people might be upset by a phrase that has become synonymous with the Nazi genocide, other than being SJW's? Because if that's the case, I think there may just be too large a gap between our experiences and understanding of the world to allow meaningful communication.

//by innocuous words//

I'm still not sure how a phrase that refers to genocide qualifies as 'innocuous', mhaze:

http://i.imgflip.com/p1ij6.jpg

//But the man has said that he had no intention to reference the Holocaust when he put those two words together.//

Then why put those two words together? As I pointed out, there were plenty of other choices. I'm not saying the man's a Nazi sympathiser, but he definitely chose that particular phrase for a reason.

And that reason was to stir up a big fuss. I mean, he may as well have lay down on the floor of the Senate, kicked his arms and legs and screamed 'Look at me, look at me!!'. Which would have actually been more mature on his part, because he wouldn't be relying on the controversy surrounding his punk 'I don't even care the Holocaust and what'cha gonna do about it' attitude to get attention. It's like having Sid Vicious for a Senator.

I can't begrudge the man wanting to grab some attention for himself - I'd be feeling a bit inferior too if I knew I'd only gotten into the Parliament on a technicality and that I was somehow less popular than that lunatic Malcolm Roberts.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 19 August 2018 6:54:24 PM
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But the reasonable thing to do, after having grabbed that attention by dropping a clanger in his opening speech, would have been to come out and say 'Sorry, didn't mean to inadvertently offend anybody affected by the Holocaust, made a mistake, some of my best friends are Jewish'.

Also the sensible thing, from a strategic point of view... Jews and Muslims aren't known for getting along well, so if your target is Muslims why go ahead and piss off a bunch of Jews by being flippant about something they tend to take quite seriously? Seems to me like burning bridges before you've crossed them. Mental.

//Sorry, but its confected outrage//

No, I assure you, the outrage is genuine. Although that's a good rhetorical tactic, I'm going to have to remember to use that on Tories... nothing is going to make an angry Tory angrier than patronising them. And nothing is this world is quite as funny as a properly angry Tory, as long as they don't go too far and start being offensive.

//to try to howl the man into silence//

Oh dear :(

Really? After your lambasting of snowflakes before, you come out with this? Deary, deary me. Poor old Tories, I guess their skin must be worn thin by all the sand they have in their vagina. Because when they criticise lefties it's just robust criticism and healthy debate, and you don't to see many lefties whining about people trying to silence them.

But turn it around, and oh boy, it's all 'thought police' this and 'censorship' that. Mind you, none of the Tories ever do actually get silenced. They just like to have big sook about the mean lefties not letting them have their say every time a lefty criticises something they've said.

As I said, extremely sandy vaginas on the right side of politics these days.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 19 August 2018 6:55:02 PM
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I wonder what is in planning as a 'final solution' for when the Left has gone too far & sensible people can no longer tolerate nor afford to keep the useless hangers-on.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 19 August 2018 7:41:36 PM
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Indy,

They'll do what they have done for decades.

They'll -

Import more people to do the work and the" heavy lifting"
that all the useless "hangers on" don't want to do or
aren't capable of doing.

At the same time
these useless "hangers on"
the self-assured, self-entitled men in suits will hide
behind parliamentary privilege to play the victim in
factless rants and complain about the loss of this country's
culture, despite the obsessive control and militarisation
of its borders.

Then they'll continue to keep degrading
and beating up on Muslim immigrants and asylum seekers -
confusing their own comfort with safety and confusing a negligible
loss of white-straight male Christian privilege as a fight
for their entire nation's survival.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:07:13 PM
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I thought Anning had cleared up all this hoo haa about the 'two words'.
I'm not getting what the big deal is about mentioning these 'two words'.
If it is a matter of history and on the record, then it stands for all to see for all time.
If on the other hand there is some kind of caveat over these two words then let the appropriate authorities deal with the matter as is laid down by law.
The only thing that can be said about his speech is that it echoed the sentiments of what I see as the reasonable and informed, mature Aussies.
Those who have the mental and reasoning aptitude of a child do not have the ability to understand let alone accept the messages being conveyed in his speech.
The detractors are all mentally disturbed or social rejects, such as whatever it's gender is today, 'WrONG'.
What a load of puerile crap that came out of IT'S mouth, and so on the rest of the actors.
We all know how dishonest govt is, so why would ANYONE believe ANYTHING they say?
What, all of a sudden they became honest and started telling the truth?
Get real you pathetic do-gooders, they're just conning you.
As usual.
They don't give a rats about the speech.
If they were so incensed then they should have left the chamber as he said something they actually found offensive.
Instead these gutless two faced scumbags all lined up to shake his hand with a smile.
Liers, low lives the lot of em.
Anning is the only one who has shown true courage and told it like it is, knowing he was going to cop flack over it.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:19:18 PM
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Toni, WTF does a sandy fanny have to do with anything we are discussing.
People, here's proof that the loony left are sick and need to be taken back to their respective mental institution.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 19 August 2018 8:29:37 PM
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