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Someone Had to Say It !

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"The final solution to the immigration problem is, of course, a popular vote."

I well remember reading in the history books how Hitler campaigned on the notion that the best solution to the Jewish question was to put the issue to a popular vote. Anning's intentions and policies are so close to Hitler's its like they're clones. </sarc>

The views expressed by the senator are probably not a majority view (yet). But I'm sure they have a much higher level of support than the political class finds comfortable. Not being able to argue the issue on its merits, the solution (not final but usual) is to howl the man and his supporters into silence. Throw the word racist around with gay (!) abandon and hope that sufficient numbers are intimidated into keeping their mouth's shut. (BTW when did Muslim become a race? Is Christian a race also?)

Picking up this phrase is just the hook to allow the braying mob to give their howls a veneer of thoughtfulness where none exists. If it wasn't that, they'd have found some other hook to hang their outrage on. Did he really say immigrants 'concentrate' in the cities? Did he really say Australians need more 'living space'. Oh the humanity.

Whenever someone expresses views that the political elite find repulsive they swarm in outrage. Mostly it works and the offender is silenced. Sometimes it doesn't (Hanson, Trump, Farage, Hirsi Ali) and the outraged find new levels of angst.

But what they don't realise or prefer to ignore is that the open expression of the views might be silenced but the views remain simmering below the surface.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 16 August 2018 1:23:15 PM
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"84% of Australians are against multiculturalism".

What orifice was that figure pulled from?

I don't recall that question ever being polled, let alone published.
Posted by rache, Thursday, 16 August 2018 1:25:22 PM
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Hi there BELLY old friend...

I'm so glad to see you're back in the saddle as it were, giving us all the benefit of your sage advice. However if I may, you did make one tiny error in your latest contribution apropos Muslims. '...the Muslim community is by far the biggest contributor to giving out (sic) security warnings about terrorists...'? Actually BELLY that's not quite right.

Some years back (I've mentioned this to you before) I was with a task force working the Punchbowl/Bankstown areas for drugs, money, and guns, as well as evidence of potential terrorists cells (in collaboration with ASIO Officers) which was very much in it's infancy in those days. Speaking with any Muslim, male or female, was like discussing politics with a brick wall. Nothing, zip, nought. They would never betray a fellow Muslim for any reason. I'm specifically referring to Lebanese Muslims.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 16 August 2018 1:30:03 PM
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Toni Lavis,
I do not go around taking notes of everything I read so I can give you
and others references. You can Google these things yourself.
From memory; It was a survey by a British government body questioning
persons of interest I think it was, and 18% (6000)answered that
they would take part in a terrorist action.
The total figure was given as 6000 were interested in terrorism action.
They might have been returnees from the middle east.
So the Brits believe they have say, 6000 possible active terrorists.
After all the AFP has said they have 500 active investigations.

The Brits have a deradicalisation body who have done similar surveys.
You have stirred me up to go and find the data again.
Irrespective of all that it is undeniable that muslim populations in Europe are a real problem.
This last week in Gothemburg is another example.
The latest London event may be a Melbourne syndrome.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 16 August 2018 1:31:33 PM
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He's a senator, Toni; they don't get many votes, so he can still speak for most of us on this subject. And, what makes you think that you know more about the real world than I do?

Ease of travel has nothing to do with where people live. Even now, with the no borders ratbaggery, people need permission to switch countries. The White Australia policy kept people from asking. And it is natural that certain people were born in certain places. The darker their skin, the closer to the equator; the lighter The skin the further away from it. And, yes: white people really don't suit Australia. I'm a third generation Australian, but I would gladly head for the UK (if they got rid of the undesirables that they have allowed in) and leave Australia to its own devices. The way things are, however, my ancestors did all the hard work to make Australia what it is, so I'm here to stay - and I would prefer that non-whites/non-Westerners stayed where they were born. And I don't give a stuff what someone from some daft Commission has to say about Anning. I'll make up my own mind.

And, no, there is know urban myth involved. You naturally gravitate toward crackpot commentators.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 16 August 2018 1:35:34 PM
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Never mind, I found a poll.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/multiculturalism-good-for-australia-say-85-of-australians

That one says that 85% of Australians are in support of multiculturalism, not against it.

Some people make a habit of getting things backward.
Posted by rache, Thursday, 16 August 2018 1:36:04 PM
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