Foxy,
You said "I totally agree it is important to get the facts correct"

Yet I have caught you out on at least two occasions misrepresenting the 'facts' to support your arguments.

The first was your argument that Australia was 'racist', remember? And you were never honest enough to acknowledge your wrong doing.

Indy,

How can you say - nothing obvious there?

We have doctors, nurses, teachers, health professionals,
and many others on whom our society relies - where would
we be without them? There's scientists - on whom we rely
and who have made our world a better place and will continue
to do so with new discoveries and inventions - I don't think
you've thought this one through Indy. It's not the educated
that you have to fear. It's the siren calls of charlatans,
demagogues, and ideologues.

Banjo,

I did explain to you at that time.
You, did not accept my explanation That's par for the course
on this forum. I have always given a reason, a link, an
explanation - for my postings. Unlike many on this forum.
I, unlike many here - do not just pull things out of the
air - they're always backed up with evidence. However, the
evidence is often brushed aside as being "Leftist propaganda,"
and the name calling and accusations usually follow. In any case
this was some time ago - you need to move on.

We have doctors, nurses, teachers, health professionals,
Foxy,
believe me I fully understand where you're coming from. I have worked with some very highly educated people who couldn't make their own sandwich. Where people go so wrong in my opinion when they heap praise upon such academics, is that they don't consider the background people at all. By those I'm referring to the army of workers who put in the groudwork that makes it possible for these academics to shine, yet the workers get not no second thought. Look at speicialists for example, could they design & build the equipment made by workers ? Would a surgeon be able to shine if he had to build the equipment he uses / Would a 747 or A380 pilot be able to maintain the aircraft ? Would so many academics be able to create the computer programmes that give them th opportunity to do such 'great' things?
Just think of what would happen if the rubbish collectors went on a week's holiday ?
Of course, people study hard etc. but other people work hard etc. Mechanics need to constantly update their skills as do many, many others. just because someone has studied something for years does not make them smarter or more intelligent than those who have a trade. It's a matter of perspective & from my perspective highly educated people als make highly bad stuff-ups. I have worked with engineers who could not physically do what they drew on their designs, we made it work. It's like saying Pharao so&so build the pyramid. He never even got a finger dirty, uneducated slaves built it. As I said, perspective !

Indy,

I think we're talking at odds here. Nobody is denying
the value and work of others - be they tradies, garbage
collectors, plumbers, electricians, et cetera. You've
unnecessarily gone off on a tangent here.

My response was merely to your statement about academics
"flashing" their degrees. To which I pointed out
that they had no need to do that.
It was not meant to under value or demean anyone else.
You seem a bit sensitive on the subject.
I suspect the problem lies in your own mind (and possibly
with some personal bad experiences that you might have had).

Individual said- "If I remmber rightly, it was the do-gooders of the past 50 years who fought tooth & nail to restrict discipline & were the proponents of leniency in the sentencing of emerging criminals.
And, wasn't it the lot of Leftists who marched & demonstrated for free speech but now they're stifling it with PC ?
As you very well know the sabotage by the Left is now coming home to roost. Admitting it is the difficult part."

Answer - Very good point. Thanks.

Which point is good?