Some of us are aware of a current talking point set out to bring relief from jobs being lost to new tec,that being a base income for every one,it has supporters but is it the best or only way to fix the growing problem? My thought was different, a job, always, instead of welfare, and as a form of aid, in third world countrys, it is possible other methods would include birth control, compulsory birth control, just can not get my head around that,but it could happen

Dear Belly,

«but is it [(base income for every one)] the best or only way to fix the growing problem?»

Should we necessarily view non-employment as a problem, rather than as an opportunity?

Yes, if we decide that this is a problem, then there is a simple solution: limit technology!

What I consider to be the real problem, is neither employment itself nor unemployment, but rather that as people desperately scramble to get a job, more useless, meaningless, unethical and harmful jobs are being created.

ok tell that to the country boy who just wants job/life, tell the west African who has no food and no hope, give me better way to support those who can not support them selves all over the world, some thing for nothing is not in my view an answer I would support, say an international task force, made up to clean up the planet,even in this country our lakes rivers and streams, forests and roadside rest areas are full of rubbish such a group could clean up and recycle, ten thousand such community improving tasks can be found
I have found a willingness to work is more often the case than bludging,

Dear Belly,

First give such a young country boy some basic income, so they don't fall prey to unwholesome employers, then you can tell them "Now if you want more, then join this task-force to clean up the country, the rivers, streams, forests, etc."

Alternately, limit technology, then tell them: "If you want to earn money, open a booth and repair people's shoes/clothing/watches/bags/ploughs/etc.".

Tell the west African who has no food and no hope, "Sterilise yourself and your family, then you will get paid".

Yuyutsu,
I can only agree with every word you wrote in your last post.
i am not against welfare if the Govt of the day is not competent enough to provide an economy that enables a willing & capable person to get up & work. If that Govt sees fit to pay thousands of utterly pointless bureaucrats $150-200,000 a year for doing literally nothing then they must be expected to find funds to provide jobs for normal working people instead of treating them like outcasts by their soul-less agent Centrelink. I know public servants who do less work in a month than most post office or supermarket employees perform in a single day & they are on $100,000 with more than generous Superannuation, courtesy of the taxpayers in real jobs.
Public Service jobs need to be made performance based not just an automatic entitlement to board the gravytrain.

Businesses create jobs, not governments.

Lowering the taxes such as corporate tax and taxes on employees would be a great start to increase jobs.