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A Job for every one?

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World trade is under the spotlight as is refugee migration flows, as more jobs go to new tec, and casual work takes over,tax reform and even no tax for some, can we forever continue on this path?What if we world wide made a job for every one? real work real wage of real benefit to every one and NOT competing with existing work cost? remember the costs may be far less than current welfare/refugee/migration costs, thoughts?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 22 June 2018 6:22:29 AM
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National Service should be the first job for every able citizen/resident of this Nation.
Posted by individual, Friday, 22 June 2018 8:04:25 AM
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Hey Belly,
Didn't Labor write a white paper on full employment in 1945?
Still waiting...

Labor buys votes on emotion, but actual policies to achieve anything of value are fairytales.

When I was young and had just joined the workforce I thought unions were there to support the worker.

As I got older I realise unions exist to fund a socialist political agenda, which more or less was the opposite of what I thought I was contributing too.

Not only that, Labor survives from payoffs from the gaming industry.

They sell out the Aussie worker in favour of immigrants (where did diversity quotas come from) and they have no ethics.

What would you expect from these sellout used-car salesmen?

You're on the right track though.
The answer is to not offer money as welfare but a job instead, and safeguard human usefulness in an age of robots and automation.

I say double dole to every unemployed person who works in a separate job system, doing things to help the government save money.

Why pay people $250 a week to do nothing, when you could pay $500 and get a full time worker.

'The job you have when you don't have a job'.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 22 June 2018 8:21:24 AM
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“Make a job for everyone”. That's what the USSR tried to do. One example was on the stream trains: driver and fireman as usual, plus someone to blow the whistle! Jobs cannot be “made”. There has to be a demand for goods and services, and people wanting to provide those goods and services. Highly unlikely in socialist Australia where most people seem to want governments to provide everything.

Up to 2014, new business start ups dropped by 40%; the worst in the Anglosphere, with the U.S at 20%, Canada at 15%, and the UK 5%. There is no incentive to create jobs in Australia. The highest power prices in the world; stifling red tape and regulations; inability to sack no hopers; onerous superannuation requirements; high wages; too-readily-available dole; long service leave - the list goes on.

And, a majority of millennials (the biggest bludgers and gimme, gimme group) want even more political interference in the economy, when our politicians cannot even attend to the core business of government. They are all to young to know about the effects of socialism, and the socialist education system has kept it from them

Add globalisation and the gradual moving of jobs overseas for the above reasons, plus mass immigration of more no hopers who go straight on the dole, and Australia is surely rooted. We are on a slippery dip to the Third World
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 22 June 2018 9:49:41 AM
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Armchair Critic,
Your proposal would make a good start for National Service.
Posted by individual, Friday, 22 June 2018 9:55:44 AM
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Hey individual,
I'm not necessarily opposed to some sort of national service but that would differ slightly from an unemployment situation.
What differs, is that if there was national service, I'd make everyone do it, no unfairness, no getting out of it.
(Though I might consider which particular jobs different people might be best suited to"

The unemployment idea provides a job for the person that 'didnt get the job' under capitalism and gives him or her a second chance to earn money and stay useful.
At the same time it's hoped that what they could do would offset their cost, making unemployment less a liability to government and more of an opportunity if you're unemployed.

Not goods or services 'build infrastructure'.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 22 June 2018 11:25:57 AM
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