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Is there life after death?
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Posted by Foxy, Monday, 2 April 2018 4:08:02 PM
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Foxy,
You're not in good company championing Theiring. "Barbara Thiering's identification of two of the main personalities of the Qumran Scrolls - the 'Teacher of Righteousness' and the 'Wicked Priest' with John the Baptist and Jesus respectively - has not convinced any professional working in the field. ... Her extensive use of the pesher technique to reinterpret the whole story of Jesus is equally unsupported by the scholarly community. ... Despite her claims to the contrary, supporting evidence from the Scrolls is not to be found for most of her hypotheses. Having discovered the pesher technique, she uses it wholeheartedly and without discrimination. ... As I have briefly indicated, her scholarly peers have found her arguments to be tenuous and unconvincing. Despite her assertions to the contrary, her presentation of Jesus owes far more to fictitious imagination than to historical research." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Thiering and there's plenty more where that snippet came from. Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 2 April 2018 4:13:48 PM
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Foxy, that lady who wrote that is considered not to be scholarly. Mind you it is an interesting concept. Recall the Roman governor asked the mob to set one man free, the thief Barabbas or Jesus of Nazareth. They chose Barabbas. Does this seem to suggest his followers were not in force in Jerusalem? He was considered a radical Jew whom the rabbis wanted to get rid of as they feared an uprising against the Romans, that they would lose. And they did, in 70 AD. Jesus left his home in Non Roman ruled Israel and traveled to Jerusalem that was under Roman Rule.
The Romans did not rule over all of Palestine. By traveling to Jerusalem, he was already treading on thin ice, as there was political problems there at the time. Posted by Bush bunny, Monday, 2 April 2018 5:26:00 PM
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//Recall the Roman governor asked the mob to set one man free, the thief Barabbas or Jesus of Nazareth. They chose Barabbas.//
According to the Bible. Here's what really happened: Pontius asked the mob to set one man fwee, the thief Bawabbas or Jesus of Nazawef. After some bickering and discord, they chanted as one 'Welease Bawabbas! Welease Bawabbas!'. And thus, in accordance with the custom at the time, Bawabbas was duly weleased, and Jesus of Nazawef was most bwutally cwucified whilst the wapscallion Bawabbas walked fwee to continue wobbing. Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 2 April 2018 5:41:43 PM
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You don't have to have a degree in some form of Bible studies to see that the religions are Paulian based Pharisaical organisations following Paul and totally underming Jesus and God with their lies.
It is plain sight for even the uneducated believers to see if they want to. In the Gospel of Phillip it states... The companion is Mary of Magdala. Jesus loved her more than his students. He kissed her often on her face, more than all his students, and they said, “Why do you love her more than us?” The savior answered, saying to them, “Why do I not love you like her? If a blind man and one who sees are together in darkness, they are the same. Why do people think the Pharisee religions painted Mary as a prostitute for all those years...To undermine her totally so people wouldn't look at her seriously. It is a standard trick of the evil Pharisees...They do it to women all the time. Ask Menstrual man NotNowNever...lmao But I ask another question...Why would his male disciples be jealous of this kissing? I might worship you as a male person but I don't want you kissing me...YUCK! Believers need magic in their story book otherwise they won't be tricked...Moses used magic and then ordered every person who could out him for his trickery killed. As usual Moses said the Lord said to justify the crime! Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Moses used his magic and lies on you starry eyed believers and you still are fooled by Moses today...lmaoLook I'm Moses...Nothing up my sleeve...but if you say there is I'll kill you...lmao Posted by Opinionated2, Monday, 2 April 2018 5:44:27 PM
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Anyone read the Secret Gospels of St.Mark. He was one of Jesus' disciples, it seems that one Bishop was asked whether they should be included in the formation of the New Testament. They weren't, for obvious reasons.
The problem with interpreting the bible is the original old Testament and also New Testament were written eons ago. About BC 600 for the Old Testament, and around 300 AD for the New Testament. The world was a different place, most religions were pagan, accept the Hebrews. Or later Judaism. The Zoroastrians were Monotheist. Anyway, try to get the Secret Gospels of Mark on line, it was there. Posted by Bush bunny, Monday, 2 April 2018 5:46:26 PM
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The following link is worth a read:
http://mkw.melbourne.vic.gov.au/life-after-death/