NotNowNeve...PROVES my points again the poor little indoctrinated soul...It's like watching a train wreck caused through indoctrination and a manipulated mind...lol

I'll keep showing what Jesus says...The Pharisaically afflicted churches teach Jesus is God...You know it!

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

This defines how Jesus defines "being as one", if we can be one with Jesus and GOD what is he saying here?

I can't be Jesus or GOD so when he uses the words "as one" he is talking in a spiritual sense, being on the same page and understanding, NOT being one entity.

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Question: So we can be GOD also? NO! Jesus further explains oneness here! It means one in spirit... This isn't so tricky!

GOD gave Jesus, a separate entity, glory. God then passes that glory onto us. I can't be as one with Jesus in a physical sense... I can never be Jesus... BUT then using the words in this verse, can Jesus be GOD. If the words don't apply to us how can they apply to Jesus and GOD when Jesus states that they may be one, even as we are one:?

So all your waffle about the women's menstrual cycle called an uncleanliness is simply UGLY MISGUIDED RUBBISH BY UGLY MISGUIDED MEN!

In Revelation Methane John says Jesus will hangout with 144,000 virgin men who haven't been DEFILED BY WOMEN... ANOTHER UGLY MISGUIDED MAN!

So keep up the good work NNN your Pharisaical brainwashing is out there for all to see.

You don't trust Jesus enough to believe him!

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

GOD (an entity), sent his SON (another entity) , and the Holy Ghost (another entity), in Jesus' name. GOD doesn't visit you - the Holy Ghost does!

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

So we can speak against JESUS but can't speak against the Holy Ghost as the latter only won't be forgiven? Aren't they one in the same under the trinity? This is a clear case of absolute separation.

Many people here need to study more and actually listen to how Jesus explains his oneness with GOD and our ability to be at one with GOD. It doesn't make us all the same being!

Even John 3:16 is misquoted by Christians.

For God (one entity) so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son (Jesus another entity), that whosoever believeth in him (GOD) should not perish, but have everlasting life.

This is proven in

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and BELIEVETH ON HIM THAT SENT ME, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 5:24 proves that what most believe in John 3:16 is wrong! Why do believers ignore John 5:24. It's simply because they didn't know it was there and/or would prefer to believe in the teachings of men over the teachings of Jesus.

Should we trust Jesus' own words on the matter?

Apparently not!

The believers don't so why should we?

Dear Bush bunny,

Prof. Barbara Thiering in her book, "Jesus The Man: A
New Interpretation from the Dead Sea Scrolls," under
the chapter "People and Events," tells us that:

"Jesus - Son of Joseph, a descendant of King David through
the Nathan line, and of Mary. Jesus was conceived during
his parents' betrothal period before their legal marriage,
so was regarded by the party of Hebrews as an extranuptial
son of Joseph. He was born in March, 7 BC. For Hellenists
in the ascetic movement, he was the legitimate David, and
would rule when the Kingdom came, either as an independent
king, or as a subordinate of the Herods. In AD 29 he joined
with the Twelve Apostles, Hellenists, to oppose John the
Baptist, who held the doctrine of Hebrews. But Jesus
introduced entirely new doctrines, claiming to be able himself
to fill the position of high priest, as well as king.

Thus he taught the priesthood of all believers, and also
the free admission of all members, including Gentiles, without
hierarchical grading on the grounds of birth, race, sex or
physical condition.

He was opposed to all parties working for Jewish supremacy, and
was called by them the "Wicked (Anti) Priest" and "Man of a Lie."
Jesus was crucified through political stratagem, on the grounds
that he was technically an associate of zealots.

He was given poison on the cross to end his sufferings, but merely
lost consciousness, and was helped to revive by his friends.
He remained with the pro-Gentile party in its successive forms,
guiding its leaders, John Mark, then Peter, then Paul. In
AD 61 Jesus led his party to Rome, where they established a
separate mission to Gentiles, no longer attempting to make them
Jews. He was still alive in AD 64, and his death is not
recorded."

So let's ignore JESUS in all the above.

If only Jesus has said " I AM GOD".

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 10:37-38 Say ye of him (JESUS), whom the Father (GOD) hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blaspheest; because I (JESUS) said, I AM THE SON OF GOD?

If I (Jesus) do not the works of my Father (GOD), believe me (JESUS) not.

In that last verse if Jesus hadn't have worded it so he would have been instructing people not to believe in GOD!

Why have believers chosen to ignore Jesus' precise teachings on these matters, and followed a man made construct which was invented prior to the Council of Nicea?

Debate was raging over this one issue prior to the Council and so to keep peace in Constantine's Rome they formalised it as the trinity a MAN MADE ANTI-GOD TEACHING!

You can twist Jesus...you can modify Jesus, you Pharisees can lie to yourselves...JESUS NEVER SAID IT!

JESUS said he isn't GOD and as most of you follow Trinitarian based religions you are defying Jesus and promoting Jesus wrongly as God.

REMEMBER FROM THIS DAY FORWARD THAT YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.... JESUS ISN'T COMING BACK!

Jesus has seen what little he and God mean to you and even if shown to you using his own words you will ALWAYS DEFY HIS TEACHINGS...It is that simple!

I understand why imbecilic men believe the anti-women teachings of these imbecillic men but how do women believe this rubbish.

It is an insult to Jesus, it is an insult to God, and it is an insult to all women throughout history.

NotNowNever the menstrual cycle man proves my point and follows Paul...

Acts 23:6 “But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I AM A PHARISEE, THE SON OF A PHARISEE: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.”

Notice he doesn't say...I WAS a Pharisee but says "I AM A PHARISEE".

Sorry ladies you have been Pharisaically hoodwinked!

Is there life after death? You better believe it! I 'Baygon' this dirty big cockroach on the back step this avo. Dead for all money. Thirty minutes later the buggers resurrected himself and crawled away. Now that proves there is life after death. Forget all that biblical BS it all in the life of the cockroach.

Dear Paul,

I am glad that someone is finally at least back on the topic!

Now the one who was a cockroach just before 'Baygon' and the one who took that body of a cockroach 30 minutes later, are these the same one?

Even as you sleep, then wake, are you the same one who had your body in the evening; or have you in the morning just taken over his/her memories?