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Is there life after death?

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To Opinionated2. Since it aggravates you to teach from the Old Testament as well as the letters in the New Testament, then I will also teach from Jesus as well. (Both the books of the OT and the letters of the NT point to Jesus though. I will not stop using them as a source of teaching or learning).

Jesus in a parable and a lesson showed how important it is to listen and apply what He teaches. Jesus said. "Those who listen to what He says and put it into practice are like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash." So with that in mind let's talk about what Jesus taught.

Some of the easiest lessons to read come from Jesus's Sermon on the Mount, because they're are several lessons in that sermon and they are spoken plainly without being in parables. For reference I'll be following along the sermon on the mountian in Mathew 5-7, and a similar sermon in Luke 6, along with verses in few other places as well.

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Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 April 2018 5:00:47 AM
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In Mathew, Jesus taught 8 things for people being blessed. Those who are poor in Spirit, because theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Those who mourn, because they will be comforted. Those who are meek, because they will inherit the earth. Those who hunger and thirst for rightousness, because they will be filled. The merciful because they'll be shown mercy. The pure in Heart, because they will see God. The peacemakers, because they will be called children of God. Those who are persecuted because of rightousness, theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Jesus even explains that if you are insulted, perscuted or slandered and lied about, any of those things because of following Jesus. Then even then you are blessed, because that is how the prophets were also perscuted.

Luke shows Jesus teach about blessings, simular to the blessings in Mathew. But there is also warnings of woe as well. To those who are blessed: there is the poor, because they will have the Kingdom of God. Those who are hungry, because they will be satified. Those who weep, because they will laugh. And blessed are those who are hated, excluded, insulted rejected as evil because of being a follower of Jesus, because that is how our ancestors treated the prophets, and great is your reward in heaven.

Jesus continues though with a warning of woes. Woe to those who are rich, because they have already received their comfort. Those who are well fed, because they will go hungry. Those who laugh now because they will weep and morn later. And woe to you when people speak well of you, because that is how our ancestors treated false prophets.

These are the teachings from Jesus concerning rewards and warnings. The blessing in Mathew teach how we should be. The blessings and warnings in Luke we are taught that in times of suffering, we will be rewarded, and in times of good things, there is justice awaiting us. Seems to speak of the social injustice we have in the world, and the price of being blessed in an unjust world.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 April 2018 5:08:17 AM
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I'll continue more on the sermons on a different day. After Easter probably.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 1 April 2018 5:13:08 AM
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//Intreasting the methods they used to determine Richard III. But none of those methods can be applied to Jesus, I don't think.//

Of course they can. In the same way that Richard III's skeleton displayed characteristics consistent with his disability and injuries, the skeleton of Jesus would display characteristics of crucifixion. Of course, the Romans crucified lots of people, but as I understand the practice it wasn't routine procedure to stab crucifixees with a spear to check they were dead. So a skeleton displaying characteristics consistent with crucifixion and a post-mortem abdominal stab wound would be a fairly big giveaway.

But as with Richard III, the big clincher would be DNA analysis. Now, as far as I know, Jesus doesn't have any living descendants. But in churches all over Europe, there are samples of his DNA in the form of relics. A sample of Jesus's blood, obtained from the vial contained within The Basilica of the Holy Blood in Belgium, would provide all the DNA required for comparison.

On a side note, because the samples obtained from relics would be samples of Jesus's pure DNA and not just the DNA of a descendant, we'd be able to do more than just run an analysis. If somebody really wanted to, it would be possible to clone Jesus from one of those samples, and thus ensure the 2nd coming. Somebody should tell all the loony Apocalyptic christians in your country that they don't have to bother with all their evil meddling in middle-eastern politics to try and bring out their much desired end of the world. They can just go ahead and clone Jesus, save everyone a lot of hassle.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 1 April 2018 6:58:30 AM
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Good Morning Everyone,

Did you all turn your clocks back one hour?
Those of you affected by Daylight savings that is.
It ended today. We get an extra hour. Once again,
Happy Easter, and Enjoy Your Day!

Anyone see the film, "The Ten Commandments?" on TV
last night? Charlton Heston as Moses?
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 1 April 2018 9:32:22 AM
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Yes Foxy I did. I saw it in UK as a child on the big screen. Yer saw it last night Terrible script, well Charleston was a Jew of course. It was one of the new epic films such as 'The Robe' The Bible, Jesus, (the first time we were allowed to see his face played by Jeffery Hunter, who was blue eyed) Ten Commandments, and Ben Hur. On CinemaScope.

About identification, the Romans cremated themselves. And the Jews let the body disintegrate, then collect all the bones and put them in small wooden and/stone boxes with the name on it, in Aramaic. Some scientist or archaeologist thought they had found him and relatives. Remember the Sabbath was Saturday not Sunday. They would not have had the same calendar as us. Maybe not 7 days in a week. I take that back, on the 7th God rested. The Romans had a ten month calendar. Has anyone read the Roman version of the crucifixion they wrote things down.
It was quite possible for his body to have been stolen. Anyway, Easter Sunday is the third day, God Friday being day 1. And folks, he was resurrected, as over 2,000 years later, people are making millions out of his history and spirituality. Even though he was a Jew, whom the Jews do not recognise as their long awaited Messiah.
Posted by Bush bunny, Sunday, 1 April 2018 4:15:25 PM
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