I think it doesn't matter if Jesus lived and died or survived. The Jewish faction that transpired and the gentiles that St.Paul converted, made compromises. No circumcision. If it had not been for St.Paul, Jesus' memory and sacrifice would have died along with him, if he really lived?

Just remember Jesus was a Jew and died a Jew. As an archaeology student, they can date most organic material.

In the mean time,we have Scientologists have Thetans, Seventh Day Adventists,creation is six days, one of which once said, 'They are banning the Saturday Sabbath in the USA" (Yes, well I think the Muslims and Jews would have something to say about that.) Complete ignorance, we didn't evolve from the primate line. That is sacrilege. That's why I am a deist.

The bible is written in the world view and interpretation of lst century Greeks and clerics the old Testament is part of the Hebrew Bible. It has been translated a number of times. The old testament was not written by Moses, even if he lived. If he did that was around 1300 BC during Ramses time. If you take the Holy Bible literary, you might as well believe Santa Clause is a real person. (He was centuries ago, in pagan times, Odin or Woden flew across the skies, with reindeer pulling a sleigh dropping fruit for the children during the height of the winter solstice. He had a red robe. There was a St.Nicolas and most countries in the Northern Hemisphere accept the States, had a winter solstice that was joined with Saturnalia, the Anglo Saxon Yule, and Judaism, and Jesus' birth, The Nativity. Dec 25th is convenient for the Christians, although the Greek and Russian orthodox say Jan 6th. Jehovah Witnesses, don't celebrate Christmas.

Religion is tribal, like politics,makes heaps of money and should not be something for violent debate. Religion evolves along with a culture's transformation, and if it values anything, is that God, belongs to everyone, not just one sect.

It absolutely does matter if Jesus died or didn't die. That is like saying it doesn't matter if the dinosaurs died out before man came along.

Religions are multi-million dollar businesses who continue to fleece the flock of sheep that follow them.

Should we let robbers go free just because they say sorry?

Religions and preachers have been allowed to get away with all manner of evil because their flocks are too lazy to study properly.

Josephus said the "Angel of Death" killed all the firstborn of Egypt. The Bible says יְהֹוָה Yahweh God did it!

People seem to believe religions and people who claim to be knowing yet never check the facts. I check the facts and the Bible proves them all wrong continually.

If Jesus didn't die and their was no resurrection that once again totally undermines the false teaching of the Trinity.

Jesus said many things denying he was God and yet they ignore Jesus or God and claim Jesus is God. This is the great lie of the Pharisaical churches.

Jesus says whilst standing in front of the people he was addressing......John 5:37 "And the Father (God) himself, which hath sent me (Jesus), hath borne witness of me (Jesus). Ye have neither heard his (God's) voice at any time, nor seen his (God's) shape."

Is Jesus lying here?

The religions have made billions and billions of dollars from falsifying the facts and the lazy dummies who sign up refuse to test these liars!

Religion is a money making venture defying everything that Jesus taught and covering up crimes in Jesus' name.

If the facts don't matter to people then they should remain sheep and get fleeced more often!...lmao

The Hebrew word didn't show in the last post..It states Yahweh killed the first born in the passover!

If truth isn't important then let's just believe the lies of the religions.

Let's ignore Jesus totally like they do.

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Jesus states ONLY GOD is good! This is an outright separation of Jesus and GOD...Jesus said it!

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 5:37 Jesus says "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape."

Jesus states....No-one has seen GOD and yet Jesus/GOD was sitting in front of them... How can this be?

WAS JOHN LYING HERE?

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Moses said he saw God so either Jesus is lying throughout or Moses is...

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

He ascends to GOD. They are separate!

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

So "he goes" to the father who is greater than Jesus so how can Jesus be GOD? If they were the same wouldn't they be equal

Verse after verse believers deliberately ignore...Then they want us to trust them about an afterlife based on the Bible? Yeah right!

This is how lies become truth... cont...

WAS JESUS ACTING HERE?

Matthew 26:39 “And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”

Was he praying to himself? Why would he throw himself on the ground requesting GOD not make him suffer?

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

Both have life in themselves...Why does Jesus separate what is supposedly the same?

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Without GOD Jesus can do nothing, is another statement of separation. It is GOD's will Jesus seeks not his own.

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

The son sees the father do things and then emulates GOD? Is the penny dropping yet?

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

Matthew 6:9 Our Father, which art in Heaven hallowed be thy name.

Was Jesus praying to himself? And isn't heaven supposedly within? How can Jesus tell them to pray to the father when you guys believe he is both the father and the son?

WAS JESUS LYING HERE?

Matthew 27:46 My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Is Jesus pleading with himself? So by ignoring this are you saying GOD and Jesus are fakers?

Sorry but anyone who says the truth doesn't matter is WRONG!

Toni Lavis. Intreasting the methods they used to determine Richard III. But none of those methods can be applied to Jesus, I don't think.

To Opinionated2. You speak of truth but you offer none yourself.

History is one thing that determines what is facts and what is opinion. What is our past, verse what we want to believe and philosophize ourselves to be. I suggest you seek real sources of truth that will carve away falsehoods. Instead you show a lack of understanding and instead wish to make up your own "truths."

Both the letters in the New Testament as well as the books in the Old Testament point to Jesus. But if that makes you nervous to hold more scripture, then I'll also teach from Jesus's teachings as well. But first I'll answer your questions.

Which part offends you more? That God protected women and their health in their menstruation cycle so that they wouldn't have sex during that time? Or that Jesus healed a woman who never stopped menstruating?

How is our righteousness like filthy rags? Even our best is not enough. If it was our world would be in a better state then it is now. The truth you seem to not get is that mankind needs saving. God had to come to redeem us, wash us. from our sinful natures, and make us clean. God did this by sending Jesus to teach us and redeem us, and He continues to do it through His Holy Spirit, and His direct influence on us.

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As for the Trinity. I look at it differently then you probably do. Jesus prayed to God and sought to have time with God alone. This could be as an example for us to follow, or it could also be because Jesus needed to do this too. Therefor, because there is scripture that shows Jesus and God to be separate individuals, as well as scripture where Jesus says that He and God are one I. Because of these my conclusions fall a bit differently. Like a king is the head of a nation, God is Jesus's Father and is in charge. Still like a king is the head of a kingdom, Jesus is the authority of the church (all members of the church, not just denominations). So for us Christians, we should look to Jesus as our authority, and by doing so we also look to God who is the Head of the household. (Just as the bible holds men in the role of being the head of the household of their family). Belief in Jesus because God has placed Jesus there to be the head of the church. By doing this Jesus is the way to His Father, to God.

As for who needs saving, are you so dense that you don't understand Jesus came to save the world? That anyone who believes and relies on Jesus is saved? It is open for anyone, but the need is for everyone. You need Jesus as well. Possibly more then I need Him because you haven't found Him yet. Like a lost runaway needs their family more then the one who stayed with his parents and had their needs and safety met because they were still with their family.