And the excuses from the Pharisees, for deliberately not following Jesus, begin...

Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

So you are relating leaving a Church over child abuse to the same as leaving your country of birth Dizzy Issy...lmao...Pathetic!

You are the complete Pharisee...lmao

I think it is time for the Bible test...Part1

Let's see how believers do when they are called to account on the Commandments. Afterall, they all talk about these things, they all lecture on these things, BUT, do they really follow what they say they believe and what is expected from GOD?

Jesus' clear instruction is to keep the commandments!

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

And God spoke all these words, saying:

“Exodus 20:1-3 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

You shall have no other gods before me.

Is Jesus GOD or God a separate entity and son?

For your consideration: John 1:18 NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;

you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me,

but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Got any crosses in your house or around your neck? It clearly states you should not "make for yourself any carved images" whatsoever. What does it say about things that can be made from molten metals?

Cont...

Op2,
The physicality of Jesus was not God, however his character, actions and wisdom revealed God. He was the Word of God, the expression of God.

https://billmuehlenberg.com/2017/12/04/roots-west-decline-possible-renewal/

Op2,

If you were a member of a political party would you leave it because some of the executive were convicted of child abuse?

Issy You are floundering badly...lmao

Bibletest Pt2...

LOOK!...there are more conditions in other verses.

Leviticus 26:1...Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

So it can't be "any likeness of anything" from Heaven above, from on the Earth or from Under the sea....

A standing cross is also a graven image as is the image of a cross engraved in stone. A gold embossed cross on a book would also fail the test and be a graven image.

OMG Churches with crosses... Naughty!

It gets worse. No graven or Molten images! Do they melt metal to make crosses?

Deuteronomy 27:15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.

Isaiah gets really fired up and offers the solution.

Isaiah 30:22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence.

The Bible is clear on what GOD requires. No wonder believers want to ditch the law...

You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

Ever said "Oh My God"? Jesus, look at that? etc.

Now on the Jesus/GOD issue. If Jesus is GOD why does he contradict Commandment 3 where he is concerned?

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

If the Trinity were true Jesus wouldn't have said this! This just doesn’t make sense if JESUS is GOD.

Cont...

Well, I’ll answer your question, Is Mise, because I think it’s a very good one.

<<If you were a member of a political party would you leave it because some of the executive were convicted of child abuse?>>

No, I probably wouldn’t.

If, on the other hand, this political party had been systematically shuffling around their executive for decades in order to evade conviction, then, yes, I would leave that political party - whether or not such behaviour was condoned by the party’s platform - because that would make that political party a criminal organisation.

Just like the Catholic Church is.

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