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Our illegally elected politicians - Should they pay their wages and benefits back?
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Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 3 November 2017 1:23:54 AM
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For anyone interested:
"When the Australian Constitution was drafted in the 1890s, allegiance was given to the Crown, not to a territory. We all shared the status of British subjects, and a person born in Australia could be elected to parliament in Britain, New Zealand, Canada, and other places, and vice versa. There was no need for renunciation or denunciation of allegiance." The following link explains further: http://mrbbaskerville.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/ahistorical-history-on-the-run-section-44i-of-the-australian-constitution/ Prof. Bruce Baskerville is an expert on the Australian Constitution. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 3 November 2017 11:04:48 AM
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and if the above mentioned is so, then the Australian Constitution is another piece of flim flam fed to the unsuspecting Australians to have them believe they were on the path to self determination whereas they were simply confirmed lackeys of the crown who were too ignorant to know otherwise with our leaders and members on both sides of Parliament being too stupid or self serving to correct the matter.
Knighthood anyone?....just look the other way Posted by ilmessaggio, Friday, 3 November 2017 7:10:26 PM
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Foxy,
"Prof. Bruce Baskerville is an expert on the Australian Constitution" So are the Judges of the High Court. Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 3 November 2017 9:07:47 PM
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Before we change Section 44 we should look at the risks of allowing people having dual citizenship being in our parliament.
Let's use British dual citizenship and history as an example . We have always stuck by Britain, and yet, why we have seems to me a very relevant question. After the European theatre of WW2 was over "We will fight them on the beaches, Churchill didn't want our troups to return to Australia to defend OUR country against the Japanese who were waging a ruthless war in our neck of the woods. He was quite happy to keep the Aussies in Europe and hang the consequences! http://www.pacificwar.org.au/battaust/Britain_betrays_Australia.html If it wasn't for Curtin's loyalty to Australia we may have been overrun by Japan... If put to a vote of a parliament full of people with dual citizens, many of whom would have been British dual citizens at the time you "Change the archaic law" people may have been eating Rice and drinking Sake today! It all would depend on whose half of their dual citizenship the parliamentarians put first! Remember Menzies fawned over the Queen with stomach churning lines from an old poem like "I did but see her passing by and yet I love her till I die." Nauseating! Yes we really want ALL Australians in our parliament not people with divided loyalties. Now what did the Brits do with their love of Australia? (Sarcasm) Oh yes that's right Maralinga! Yes ! That's right our beloved British owners performed atomic bomb tests on mainland Australia not giving a dam about Australians or Australian Aborigines. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-27/sixty-years-on-from-the-maralinga-atomic-bomb-tests/7880364 Butt kisser Menzies sold out to Britain once again and we all probably have little glowing atoms of British joy still floating around in our bodies and our children's bodies! Cancer anyone? I'm not saying Menzies was a dual citizen but what you "Law Changers" might want to think about is how many dual citizens with British heritage might have been in our Parliaments and been in the ear of "Bob the Queen lover's" ear having influence over this pathetic Anglofile! To be cont... Posted by Opinionated2, Saturday, 4 November 2017 12:41:45 AM
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Continued from above...
And when the Brits abandoned us to join the European Union what then of loyalties to Australia? And where was the Royals in all of this... Were they defending their Aussie play things saying "No Winston - The Australian soldiers must go home to defend Australia" or ""No Robert we will never use Australia and it's people as nuclear guinea pigs"- You Australians are equals... lmao! WE need people who will always put Australia first and with dual citizens filling our parliaments we would never know if they were selling us out or not! All that our potential politicians are being asked to do is be loyal to Australia only by renouncing your dual citizenship... If that is too much to ask then be careful of the future... Their Allegiances may not be to Australia afterall! Aint history grand! Posted by Opinionated2, Saturday, 4 November 2017 12:47:01 AM
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We have a large national debt so we can't afford to be paying people who failed to comply with their obligations to the taxpayers.
Treat them like any other indebted person and get the money back!
We can't allow two standards again where the politicians get away with law breaking like they have with misclaiming expenses.
Throw the book at all of them.
If they don't that would open the door for a class action from anyone who has had to pay back moneys to the Government and who have been chased and prosecuted for that money to get their money back.
That is why Boofa Turnbull is terrified of a citizenship audit. He knows the problem is huge with massive consequences if things start to get challenged.
These pollies who have been elected against the law are on a fabulous wicket and as they have received all their salaries and perks illegally it needs to be repaid!
Here have a read
http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/eyewatering-extent-of-pollies-perks-as-doubledipping-scandal-emerges/news-story/9fbdbb5e83cc058beb52979480f410a6
It's time the hard working taxpayer had a win for a change!