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Is There No Hope For Bill Shorten?

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Much as I can't stand the bloke, I think there is a great deal of hope for Shorten.

It's called Malcolm Turnbull.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 2:23:41 PM
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Sadly , our Bill doesn't have thoughts and won't get into the constitution but Tony Abbott probably will.
"Chinese President Xi Jinping has just accomplished something Donald Trump could only dream of: getting himself written into his party's constitution.

The Chinese Communist Party has voted to put Xi into the same pantheon as Communist Party legends Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping, paving the way for him to lead the country into the indefinite future."
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 10:27:15 AM
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Foxy,

When I finger-point at left whingers it is generally for a very good reason. The ALP has managed to cock up just about everything it has touched, and many I have predicted long before. For example, the stuff ups with the NBN I predicted most in 2010, the problems with renewables that led to the SA blackouts I spoke about in 2007 and the resurgence of people trafficking I predicted in 2008 and was mocked for claiming that we could see tens of thousands of illegals arriving by boat. Either I am extremely lucky or I know what I am talking about.

As for the mangling of Left whingers names, I notice that when lefties do it there is complete silence from the Foxy front. So when you have taken the plank out of your eye, then talk to me about the splinter in mine.

As for the Jacinda regime, coalitions that succeed usually lead to stronger second terms, and those that are fractious lead to heavy defeat. Given that NZ first and the greens are deeply opposed on many issues, I suspect that it will be the latter.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 3:03:14 PM
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<<the stuff ups with the NBN I (Shadow) predicted most in 2010>> How insightful of you Shadow, way back in 2010 you were able to predict that some time in the future Money Bags Malcolm would come along and make a complete cock up of the NBN. Well done son, top marks, you are a modern day Nostradamus. Were you also able to predict that the Mad Monk would prove to be such a boofhead as a Prime Minister? I did.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 8:09:23 PM
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Shadow Minister,

I stopped reading your post after the sentence -
"The ALP has managed to cock-up..." (again
blaming only the ALP - no bias there).

Dear Paul,

We're told that -
Malcolm Turnbull changed the plan for the NBN
to incorporate a range of obsolete
and second-rate technical solutions which he
proposed when in opposition. The cost of this 2nd
rate solution was pretty much the same as the
original Labor plan, so Mr Turnbull sabotaged the
future of the NBN. However the following link
explains more:

http://www.crikey.com.au/2016/01/13/who-you-should-blame-for-the-nbn-hint-not-just-turnbull/
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 October 2017 9:51:31 AM
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Foxy,

Pity you have joined the three monkeys. It is clear that you rely almost exclusively on left whinge news media and regurgitate their opinions uncritically.

None of the technology going into the NBN is obsolete, and reusing existing equipment will save up to 50% of the total cost.

Which of Krudd's cost estimates are you using his original NBN cost of $4.7bn, the $27bn, or the $43bn? Perhaps you forget that when Juliar was booted out the NBN had spent about $15bn and connected only 3% of households. The real cost of Labor's FTTH NBN would have been closer to $80bn.

The problems with speed are not due to the technology used but the high cost that the NBN is trying to recover.

Paul,

The one easy prediction that I made was that the Labor green alliance would be a complete disaster.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 26 October 2017 12:06:04 PM
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