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Is There No Hope For Bill Shorten?

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In a recent visit to New Zealand, and with a local general election looming, I was of the opinion that NZ Labour was heading for an electoral disaster. Labor leader Andrew Little was openly writing himself off, admitting he did not want the job and giving every indication that his party had no chance, Labor was polling a pitiful 24%. Two months out from the election the Labour mob bit the bullet, abandoned Little, who stepped down , in favour of the deputy leader, the inexperienced and untested. 37 year old Jacinda Argern. The new leader launched an immediate election platform of what she called “relentless positivity” . Joining Argern as her new deputy was Kelvin Davis, also a controversial choice for some.
Labour started to claw back support, but with little time and a lot to do, it still seemed a forlorn hope. At best Argern might hold Labour to be at least a creditable opposition to The Nationals led by Prime Minister Bill English.
The shock result is now history. With the backing of the Greens, and more importantly the support of Winston Peters New Zealand First Party, Labour won the election, and Jacinda Argern is New Zealand’s new Prime Minister.

Is there a lesson for Australia in all this. Could the Australian Labor Party dump Bill Shorten and install a young and vibrant leadership to take on the stogy old conservatives, and deliver an Australia for tomorrows generation. Its a possibility, Penny Wong and Tanya Plibersek get ready.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 21 October 2017 6:39:31 AM
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Paul,

There is hope for Shorten, a little, but no hope for Labor if he stays.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 21 October 2017 9:22:01 AM
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It will need a hard-nosed belligerent to lead Aust against the NZ attack on Canberra . The foreign citizen MP conspiracy and resistance to Kiwis being deported signal a growing threat . Julie Bishop will be struggling to be civil to the NZ militancy backed by missiles from Hawke's Nest , symbolic of the Nazi eagle.

Rocket Lab won big at the NZ Innovation Awards tonight , the company was named the Supreme New Zealand Innovation for 2017, as well as winning the award for innovation in design and engineering. Cubesat are the first Australian-built satellites to go into space for more than a decade. Of the 28 cubesats deployed in May, eight are not working.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 21 October 2017 9:36:52 AM
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What F* rot Paul 405...

And what is your latest stupid idea of a braves new world order? That is post rainbow flag of course!
Posted by diver dan, Saturday, 21 October 2017 10:44:30 AM
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Puleeze....Shorten was always short on....a sleaze is a sleaze whatever side he may be on.
Turnbull postulates grand ideas but eventuate to nothing when put into practice.
This country has the leaders it votes for....so it's the voters that have the problem...not the pigs at the trough
Posted by ilmessaggio, Saturday, 21 October 2017 10:50:16 AM
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New Zealand is a separate, sovereign nation. It has its own unique issues and priorities. What happens there is irrelevant to and not transferable to Australia.

Paul1405 comes from another thread where he pretends that what is happening in the US is not only applicable to Australia but it is actually happening here.

That is ludicrous. It is a pub argument trick that might only work with the limp-brained drunks and wilfully ignorant and uninformed. It is mischief making. Appeals to the Greens demographic though,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA
Posted by leoj, Saturday, 21 October 2017 10:50:34 AM
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