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Is There No Hope For Bill Shorten?

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Dear Paul,

Talking about elections ...

One of my favourite quotes -

"Welcome to a dangerous new era - the Unlightenment -
in which centuries of rational thought is overturned
by idiots. They're everywhere - real debate and science
in favour of soft-headed bunkum. But instead of slapping
these people round the face till they behave like adults,
we encourage them. We've got to respect their beliefs
apparently."
(Charlie Brooker).

Did you watch the "Four Corners" program on the NBN last
night?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 9:52:38 AM
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The only person able to claim non bias would be a person fresh out from a lobotomy procedure and anyone else claiming such is self delusional.
The very fact that you follow or endorse a political point of view infers bias so I really don't know what is being claimed when a person says they're 'not biased'
Having an open mind implies that a person is trying to view something objectively in attempting to assess it's validity but even then, a degree of bias is present
Posted by ilmessaggio, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 10:47:14 AM
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Yes Foxy, just sub'd a discussion topic on the NBN. I recall another formuite who used a previous nick to claim he was a moderate, and Shadow claims to be unbiased. I claim to be JC reincarnated, since outrageous claims are the order of the day.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 11:08:11 AM
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Foxy,

When you essentially claimed that I only disagreed with "lefties" I simply pointed out that I have disagreed with other conservatives too. That you cannot differentiate between the specific and the general is your problem, not mine.

So you agree that Jacinda "sold her arse" to become PM?

Paul,

PW and TP have been MPs for 15 and 19yrs respectively, and are nearly as old as BB. They are both pretty stale. I don't see Aus being ready for an ex-con drug dealer as the first Bloke.

The greens lost 6 seats or 40% of their MPs, a thrashing by any other name
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 11:28:51 AM
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Dear Shadow Minster,

I seem to recall Tony Abbott was willing to do whatever
it took to get elected.
But he got knocked back. Isn't that the way the game is
played. Whatever it takes? Ask any politician. Nobody wants
to lose - right? Or in this case - he was left - dumped,
and possibly at the next election he will follow his
previous leader John Howard
- by being kicked out of his electorate as
well. We can only hope.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 2:15:54 PM
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cont'd ...

Shadow Minister,

You do more than "only disagree" with "Lefties".
You consistently label them inappropriately
and finger-point, and attack. Everything is their
fault in your eyes - so cut the baloney. We don't
have the appetite for it. And you have no credibility.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 2:21:03 PM
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