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Is There No Hope For Bill Shorten?

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There is definitely a swing away from the old regimes, but I don't know that it is towards anything radical. These old regimes have moved too far away from the tried and true, and they will be punished as per the U.S and Europe (Brexit). The lunge to the left has been ruinous.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 October 2017 7:53:45 AM
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Paul,

I also notice that the NZ greens are the part of the staid old political regime that got the biggest hammering. It is similar to what happened with Howard when after a decade of sound government, the voters forget what a screw-up Labor was.

I believe that Winston Peters saw the desperation of Labour to govern and that they would be completely beholden to him, and has got out of it 4 cabinet positions, deputy PM and a veto over every single policy that Labor and the greens put forward.

In short, WP has Jacinda by the short and curlies even more than Tony Whinger and Rob Oafshot had Juliar by the balls and the Labour government will be a farce just as the last Labor term.

As for Wong or Plibersek, neither of them are fresh faces with new ideas and both carry a lot of baggage.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 8:33:10 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I see that you're still as "unbiased" as you've always
been regarding the Greens and Labor.

Congratulations!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 8:44:54 AM
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Shadow,

With the departure of "Helicopter' Brommy there is not much the Coalition can offer up in the way of a "fresh" face, now is there. Are you still praying for the second coming of the Messiah, the return of the Mad Monk himself?

Don't know what planet you are on Shadow, but the NZ Greens won 8 seats, always going to back Labour. Winnie the Pooh as my partner likes to call her distant cuzzie bro with his NZ First Party won 9. WP is a wily politician and you never know which way he will jump. The fact is the staid old Conservatives, with their belief that they have a divine right to rule. sounds like the Coalition in Aussie, are no longer able to take the people for granted, and were give their marching orders in no uncertain terms.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 9:03:02 AM
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Foxy,

I have never claimed to be unbiased. Perhaps you could address the points I raised?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 9:07:12 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Actually you did. You tried to prove to me on another
discussion how "unbiased" you were. Why you even told me
that you support same sex marriage among other things -
which was to illustrate just how "unbiased" you really
are. As for addressing the "unbiased" points that you've
raised? Been there, done that, only to have you brush
it all aside as "Left-Whinge." So I won't bother from now
on. Instead I've got to respect your "unbiased" beliefs,
apparently.

I'll leave it there.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 9:39:44 AM
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