Paul,

Do the Greens et al a favour and tell us all why the US has more guns in civilian hands than any other country in the world yet it does not have the highest rate of violence nor the highest murder rate?

What of the mantra "More guns, more deaths"?

If one trained person had been in the cafe at Port Arthur and had a concealed pistol then the story would be different.

Why have neither you nor Julian speculated on why the files on the Port Arthur murders were locked for thirty years?

Did the Government have something to hide?

No point in speculating about side issues. Focus must be on suppressing the gun freaks and their supporters in parliament.

Issy, please tell us about the 40,000,000 children (minimum), in the US who own a gun? I got that from you.

Some of those 40,000,000 enjoying themselves!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGCKFzGAfQ0

Are you a regular at Bullets and Burgers? Uzi every child should one, the perfect Xmas gift.

And when do expect Australia will be up there with Yemen in the gun owning stakes? Have we passed Somalia yet?

Are the Shooters and Hooters working on it? Have you joined the CFMEU yet?

Julian,

"No point in speculating about side issues. Focus must be on suppressing the gun freaks and their supporters in parliament"

Focus is on getting members into Parliament,shooters that is; had it not been for good old John Howard, The Father of the Australian Gun Lobby, shooters, collectors and other firearm owners would not have become political and elected their own representatives.

Of course, for you Port Arthur may be a side issue, I did notice how quick you were to vilify some Port Arthur massacre survivors, seems that they didn't agree with your personal views.

How're you going on the "non-lethal' air guns?

Funny that the very laws that you laud, declare air-powered firearms to be lethal weapons. Do you think that the law is stupid on the matter?

How're you going on finding references to back up your claims?

On owning more than one firearm, the law recognizes that one gun is not enough, to take the case of a farmer who has a .22rf rifle to shoot rabbits etc., and who has deer on his land in pest numbers.
He is not allowed to shoot deer with the .22, it's not considered humane, and a centre fire rifle of at least .30 calibre is usually required.

Would suggest that you do some study, we are never too old to learn.

"Would suggest that you do some study, we are never too old to learn"

How much study is needed to notice that Martin Bryant was able to wipe out all those people because the lax gun control let him get his hands on a gun?

How much study is needed to learn not to notice that the American slave owners and Injun hunters managed to get the US constitution to permit gun anarchy and that 36 thousand Yanks shoot 36 thousand other Yanks dead every year?

Where study is needed is to find the way to mobilise politically the interest 23 million or so non gun freaks in Australia have in stamping out the attempts by the Yank NRA's Australian chapter to put them at risk of joining the 36 thousand Yank dead.

EmperorJulian, "Martin Bryant was able to wipe out all those people "

Yes and he used an accelerant too. Which might have been employed to devastating effect and with far less chance of detection elsewhere.

What makes you believe that Bryant would not have sought other means to 'win' the 'golden prize' of international publicity and attention for life that the idiotic, self-serving media give these mongrels?

How he must gloat when the headline-hunting NSW 'Eastern Bloc' Greens give him even more publicity. Or those tabloid (most seem to be tabloid now) media outlets use him, a NSW serial killer and the murderous killer of a UK tourist regular columns and minutes on The Box?

If you don't think and challenge, you will rapidly lose that grey matter.

Now, exactly what do you believe exists in the Howard 'gun control' that will stop perpetrators of homicides?

Bluntly, why do you believe that perpetrators will be obeying Howard's paperwork faux 'barrier' when they have already resolved to break far more serious and always existing laws against murder?