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Failure of the Gun Laws

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Firearms murders are only a part of gunshot deaths in the USA. Murders in the doubly underprivileged US-ruled non-US hinterland are no indication of gunshot deaths in the USA which amount to 36 thousand Yanks shot dead by other Yanks every year. The persistent attempts by the Australian chapter of the Yank NRA to distort figures can only help focus a campaign to go after them at the ballot box.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 11:35:57 AM
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Issy. I am so relieved by that great news that we are doing better than Yemen, Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica, and even Puerto Rico. If the gunnies have their way and we work really hard we could beat the lot. Its a pity we have to suffer the way we do, and be like crappy countries like Canada, Ireland, Belgium, Finland, Italy, New Zealand, Denmark, France, Germany, UK and Japan.

If Issy and Leo have their way on gun control Australia will be another Yemen, before we now it. Something to look forward too.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 11:51:39 AM
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Julian,

Where do you get your figures from, a reference would be helpful.

Paul,

The US has more guns in civilian hands than any other country in the world yet it does not have the highest rate of violence nor the highest murder rate; why is this so?

If the Greens and their fellow travellers are to be believed guns are responsible for violence and the more guns that there are in a community then there is more violence, why is this not so in the USA?
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 1:02:16 PM
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Interesting state there Issy. 88% of Americans own a gun. Since 76% of their population is over 18 years of age. And assuming every one of them owns a gun, even the blind one, and the ones with no arms. The other 12% must be owned by children, so half the children in the US own a gun, that is about 40,000,000 kids. No wonder they have a gun problem. Do they take them to school for show and tell?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 1:06:34 PM
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EmperorJulian,

You should be getting upset about the sly spinmeisters of billionaires, an international currency trading billionaire in particular, and cynical, equally self-serving politicians who are showing complete contempt for your and the public's ability to question and think. They play you like a fiddle.

You would do yourself a good turn if you spent some time on a credible skeptic's site. Just Google.

While talking about Google, here are some easily found facts on the USA, which while interesting, are irrelevant statistically to Australia with its different culture and other factors.
US
Number of deaths: 2,626,418.
Death rate: 823.7 deaths per 100,000 population.
Life expectancy: 78.8 years.
Infant Mortality rate: 5.82 deaths per 1,000 live births.Mar 17, 2017

Homicide
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
(Firearm homicides
Number of deaths: 10,945
Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.4)

Now, if you happen to realise that the contribution of gun deaths is very low to the overall number of deaths and the firearms deaths are attributable anyhow to longstanding social problems (made worse by leftist social policies that have unexpected negative consequences), the penny should drop as to why some very wealthy people and the politicians who cover and spruik for them, are so very keen for you to be chasing the 'gun control' rabbit (and other rabbits!). - That is lest you start wondering about things that shouldn't be concerning you, such as (in the US) very deep social problems that are being mishandled by cynical politicians who serve wealthy lobbyists and are selfishly concerned with their own entitlements and futures.

Australia is coming perilously closer to developing the very same social problems of the US through the 'diversity' tail wagging the immigration policy dog. You can blame both sides of the Parliament for being asleep at the wheel, but particularly fools like Rudd, Malcolm Fraser and the worst of all, the treacherous Greens and their 'Open Door' immigration.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 1:51:48 PM
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Paul1405,

Are those the sort of factoids, from Soros' 'gun control' propagandists most likely, that NSW Greens 'Watermelon' Sh**bridge got from his 'familiarisation tour' of the US of A?

Jolly good work if you can get it, eh what? But it would have been available f.o.c from the less credible sites of the Internet.

Now, tell us all what interest NSW 'Eastern Bloc' Greens have in visiting Australia's 'Struggle Towns' and fixing things there? Y'know, being practical and getting cooperation. Nope, not in the NSW Eastern Bloc's lexicon. That would always be up to others to do, wouldn't it. No way those parliamentary seat polishing NSW Greens are going to be rolling their sleeves up and getting their own hands dirty by doing some work where it is sorely needed. Not while reclining in an aircraft or limo is on offer.

You might get to run, Shank's mare, beside their guvvy limos though, Paul1405. Lucky you.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 2:09:42 PM
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