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Failure of the Gun Laws

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nicknamenick,

Soros and others would love you, reducing as you do those deep social problems and gang membership with drug use to 'gun control'.

Not only doesn't 'gun control' stop or deter illegal possession and of course illegal use, but it is a blind to prevent the rather obvious and very serious problems of black ghettos ever surfacing.

Obama also came to support 'gun control'. After a presidency that promised so much and delivered so little for blacks.

With so many 'useful idiots' abroad there is no wonder there are so many spreading behinds polishing Senate seats, with their owners supremely confident that a bit of 'class war', 'gun culture' and other chaff will keep the 'Useful Idiots' busy.
Posted by leoj, Friday, 16 June 2017 5:34:54 PM
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The move by the Turnbull government to call a second Commonwealth gun amnesty should be applauded. The first amnesty 20 years ago, was in response to the horrific Port Arthur massacre. At the time John Howard was commended by the vast majority of the community for the good sense he showed, The Howard amnesty was an outstanding success, resulting in some 800,000 illegal firearms being removed from the community,

The selfish minority of people, people like Is Mise, who are motivated by their desire to play with guns without restriction, or who are politically motivated like Leoj, seeking to form private citizens militia. will be bemoaning this positive move. After 20 years, anything that tackles the 260,000 illegal firearms in the community today has to be commended.

Those criminally holding illegal guns, have been put on notice, given 3 months to cough up. with no questions asked, or face the harsh new penalties, fines of up to $280,000, or up to 14 years' jail. CAN'T BE FAIRER THAN THAT!
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 16 June 2017 7:43:20 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

Bull dust. Imagine Monis with an Uzi or an AR-15 with a drum magazine like the one used by the theatre shooter in Aurora instead of the 50 year old 4 shot shotgun he used. Lack of accessibility to high powered modern weaponry was likely a significant factor in reducing the number of lives possibly lost and to think otherwise is insane.

Tough sentencing laws exist in the US with little noticeable impact on shooting death statistics.

No mate, if you really cared about the list of things you flagged you would be advocating for Japanese style gun laws. But you don't and you won't because this is far more about you and your 'rights' than caring what happens to others, including our law enforcement personnel.

I say it again. Shame sir shame.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 16 June 2017 7:58:56 PM
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leoj
it weren't me what said 'gun control' it were da big cop
Your last sentence is way out , ya bin on grass man?
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 16 June 2017 8:10:46 PM
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Paul,

"The Howard amnesty was an outstanding success, resulting in some 800,000 illegal firearms being removed from the community"

That is a typical Greens' misleading statement; the guns removed from the community were legally owned firearms, that's why the Government paid millions of dollars for them in compensation.

" The selfish minority of people, people like Is Mise, who are motivated by their desire to play with guns without restriction"

Not true, I would welcome evidence-based Uniform National Gun Laws, the which we don't have; the laws are neither evidence-based nor uniform.

A lot of the law is emotion based, such as the reclassification of lever action shotguns, these guns were around in 1996 and had been for a hundred years, none have ever been reported used in crime.
Their reclassification is an example of emotion based lawmaking and an admission that for twenty years the Government was not aware of any problem, 'cause none existed.

What we really need is a permanent amnesty.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 16 June 2017 8:51:26 PM
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Steele.

"Bull dust. Imagine Monis with an Uzi or an AR-15 with a drum magazine like the one used by the theatre shooter in Aurora instead of the 50 year old 4 shot shotgun he used. Lack of accessibility to high powered modern weaponry was likely a significant factor in reducing the number of lives possibly lost and to think otherwise is insane"

Monis had a pump action shotgun that could have its magazine replenished after each shot was fired therefore he could always have had the capacity of the magazine in reserve unless he fired repeatedly.
A simple double barrel, hammerless (Category A) ejector shotgun would also have served his purpose and could have kept up a rate of fire sufficient to kill all the hostages.

High powered modern firearms are readily available (Category B) as are 100 year old designs that have high rates of fire.
Semi-automatic high powered rifles are Category D. and are restricted, even those semi-autos that can be beaten for rate of fire by some bolt action (Cat B) rifles.

As I said, what we want are evidenced based laws.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 16 June 2017 9:17:37 PM
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