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Obama's passing act of treachery

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Dear Shadow Minister,

I don't think that I am being negative at all.
I'm simply stating the situation as it exists.
I support the right of Israelis to live in peace
and security, but not at the expense of the
Palestinians. Why do we constantly hear about
Israel's need for "security," as though that
justifies erecting walls, checkpoints, and
barriers? Why is the world told to believe that
the Palestinians should only accept peace on
Israel's terms?

Antony Loewenstein summed things up rather well
in his book, "My Israel Question.":

"Sooner or later, Israel and the Palestinians
will have to meet face-to-face, listen to
each other's grievances and negotiate with honesty.
Only then - and on the condition that both Israel
and the Palestinian state achieve safety and
security - will this conflict be resolved. Neither
side has a monopoly on suffering, but only one
party has the power to end the occupation and to
recognise that Israel and Palestine are historically
destined to share the same homeland."
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 5:05:06 PM
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Foxy, why have the Iraelis erected walls ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 5:14:47 PM
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In response to Foxy, yes of course they must have the right to live in peace and security. Back in their own homelands. And eligible for immigration to free world countries as equals with everyone else if their homelands reject or oppress them. Not as armed overlords in Palestine.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 5:31:21 PM
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Dear Bazz,

The government cares little about violation of
international law, and the human rights and
welfare of the Palestinians. They simply want them
to live elsewhere. The Kadima vision is of a
concrete wall, with Jews on one side and as many
Arabs as possible on the other.

I suggest that if you can get hold of a copy of
Antony Loewenstein's book, "My Israel Question,"
it's worth a read and mny things will become clear.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 5:37:46 PM
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Dear Foxy,

«The Kadima vision is of a concrete wall, with Jews on one side and as many Arabs as possible on the other.»

This is an excellent vision indeed - don't you like it?

A strong and tall concrete wall standing precisely on Israel's pre-1967 borders, protecting ALL Israelis (Jews, Muslims, Christians, Druze, whatever, including yourself when you come to visit) from violence and terror coming from the idiots on the other side.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 6:05:15 PM
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Foxy,

The only way that your version of events or that of Antony Loewenstein can hold any validity is with a huge dose of selective amnesia.

From 1948 to 1967 the two state solution could have been easily implemented. All it would have required would have been Jordan to relinquish the territory it had captured in the west bank and east Jerusalem, and for the Arab countries to recognise Israel and its right to exist.

However, the Arabs were openly set on genocide, and to make it worse confiscated all the land and property of the millions of Jews living in middle east who then moved to Israel.

The ones with the power to bring peace are the Iranians, the Syrians, the Jordanians etc who can stop sponsoring Hezbollah and Hamas attacking Israel and bring the Gazans out of misery.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 6:33:02 PM
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