Ingongrous,

Still around and off the topic, I see. Where's your answer to my questions?

Hi Ingongruous,
I keep the cumin under lock and key; he could be radicalised any time. I'm not stupid you know!

Muslims do pose a problem for politicians though: the pork-barrelling thing obviously has to be rethought for a start...

CHERFUL,

I'll bet that you flunked history at school.

Is Mise,

Perhaps you could explain which part of CHERFUL's 'history lesson' is incorrect?

Is Mise

It was in fact the Great Depression, which bankrupted Germany
shutting down all the industries in the Ruhr Valley in Germany
putting 6million Germans out of work, that set the Germans on
a course that would eventually lead to the Election of Hitler and the slaughter of
the Jews.

The years after the mass unemployment of German people by the
Great Depression, the German people turned on the Jews,
Groups of German men stood outside of Jewish shops and businesses
and allowed no customers to enter thus Only allowing people to buy off
German businesses. Look it up on historical sites, you'll find it.
I've even seen Television documentaries on it.
Also The Germans began sacking Jews from any jobs that were still available
and employing Germans. Even educated Jews who were teachers, lawyers, etc,were
put out of work and germans hired.

So you see, the persecution of the Jews was well under way by the German people before Hitler
was ever elected. When Hitler was eventually elected, he made laws ,he made the persecution of the Jews that was already under way legal.

Also they walled off one Jewish section, and thousands of Jews inside starved to death,
Meanwhile the German people passed happily by the enclosure everyday.

At school they focus, mainly on the evil Hitler being the cause of it all, they very seldom
talk about the Germans persecuting the Jews before Hitler came to power.

Mainly because they dont think deeply about it preferring to accept the evil dictator story.
The Americans made the same mistake again, with their evil dictator theories,
in Iraq with Suddam Hussein and now in Syria with President Assad.

Turns out Assad has a supportive tribe and army around him.
I'd say you are like millions of students who are taught the simplistic non thought out
version of history.
The idealogical versions.
Look up that period in history,in the years following the Great Depression in Germany,
you'll find what I've said about that period is true.

Hey CHERFUL,
What's interesting about the American Indians is that the government had already done a deal with Sitting Bull to move onto reservations in North Dakota (I think) and South Dakota but the government went back on the deal when gold was found in the Black Hills; anyway...

Regards the German WW2 history:

I accept your history lesson; but I don't think it's the whole story.
Now you assert that "the persecution of the Jews was well under way by the German people before Hitler was ever elected".
Ok. But the bigger question is WHY WAS THAT?
Why were the German people mad?

Now I'm not a real big history buff; and I certainly don't know all the facts about this topic and I'll also admit some of the websites and videos I watch are of a questionable conspiratorial nature; by questionable people, but here's the backstory as I understand it.

Firstly you have to go back to WWI.
The Germans were winning that war, and England was doing badly, and on the verge of surrender.
This is where the Balfour Declaration comes in.
The Jews / Zionists (whatever the preferred term) told England they could still win the war and that they would get the Americans involved in the war, if they would agree to creating a national homeland for the Jews in Palestine.
So the deal was done, US came into the war, Germans eventually lost the war; and then the German people faced overwhelming reparations after the war.
Now apparently the Germans had been good to the Jews prior to this betrayal, and they resented them for it.
Times were hard, (the depression as you mentioned) and the days of the Weimar Republic where you needed a wheelbarrow of money for a loaf of bread.
At the same time they saw the Jews living well in their country;
So the Germans were subjected to terrible hardship due to extremely harsh war reparations; and they resented the Jews for costing them the war and putting them into the hardship they were in.

That's why they were mad.