Ingongrous,

Any relation to incongruous?

How many Muslim families do you know who are "perpetually demonized", and how are they demonised? By whom are they demonised? Which "farcical and diabolical media campaign" are you referring to. This thread is about Australian authorities and their foolish belief that Islamic jihadists can be deradicalised. I'm happy to have a discussion unless you are trying to hijack the post for your own ends.

G'day, Bazz,

Yes. I've heard some Muslims talking about reform, but I have say that they cannot have read their Koran, like most Muslims. It's just not on for the reasons I gave above. Their best bet is to give Islam away altogether. As long as they don't make a big deal of it, their is very little chance of facing death for apostasy. No religion would be better than Islam - just calling Islam and likening it to any other religon is a travesty forced on probably decent people from birth.

Craig Minns,

Of course, your best friends are Muslims, that's apparently all you need to know about the ideology. What narcissistic nonsense.

mac, you're most welcome to cherry pick all the lines from the Quran you like, at least it'll give you something to do for a while.

Then you can happily spend the rest of your day being scared and miserable, since that seems to be what passes for happiness in your world.

I'll just get on with my day. This evening I'm having a lovely traditional chicken biryani cooked by young Malik, who rents one of my rooms, so that's something to look forward to. I believe his mate Uday is coming over as well. Uday isn't Muslim, he's from a Hindu background in India, while Malik's from Pakistan - Kashmir to be more accurate.

I'm sure there's more than enough for you mac, why don't you drop over?

Craig Minns

No doubt the German people who turned their heads away when
their elected military exterminator, Hilter, slaughtered, the Jews
would have been classed as nice kind, caring, family, people too.

The American settlers who set up farms and houses on Indian land
would have considered themselves,kind,christian, family, people too.
But they were all in favour of men Like General Custer and the American
cavalries slaughter of the Indian tribes. In fact General Custer was
a hero in the eyes of the New settlers.
The Indian families too, would have hated the new settlers, whilst at the same
time were no doubt loving,caring, kind people to their own families and old people.

Nice, doesnt count in human wars, and conflict, wars aren’t about intolerance
as taught in our universities. Wars are over bloodlines and control of the land
or territory.
You might have noticed Isis is fighting for territorial control in Iraq and now Syria
not so much for Islam (that is self delusion),as for the Sunni bloodline, but also for territorial male
control over women and thus the sunni bloodline. The holy war is
just an excuse, so they can commit slaughter and atrocities and still see
themselves as holy and good. nice people in fact.

Religions have used religion as an excuse to kill all throughout history,
The German people didnt have religion as an excuse,so they elected
Hitler and turned their faces away whilst quietly moving into to all the
empty houses left behind by the Jews who were quite prosperous
not to mention the cars,furniture,jewellery,clothes and cash.
Quietly took it all, but then said we didnt do it Hitler did, we are nice
kind,family people.

Craig M,

You are wise to have dined in a secular environment given that estimation that "about 20% of muslim hold extreme views (sic)" -- because if Malik had simply invited 4 Muslim friends then the stats say that one of them would have been an extremist -- and ya know, too much cumin in the chicken biryani and you're a gonner.
By the way how was the dialogue around the table? Did you toss that one around about ol' Adolph being elected by the people to kill Jews. I'm more aligned to the William L. Shirer and other's views that the punitive Treaty of Versailles, hyperinflation, mass unemployment, poverty and starvation had at least something to do with it.
PS. I'm going to try that chicken biryani.