Ingongruous,

I do spare a thought for them, I ponder how they are going to grow up being aught that the Koran is the Law of God and cannot be broken and how they will fare if they wish to leave Islam.

' I'm an atheist and I'm a better Christian than you'll ever be. Consider yourself judged and found wanting.'

knowing I don't have your approval makes me a lot more secure than if I did Craig. To be judged by a fundie atheist is very amusing indeed. Suddenly you have found a moral base to judge by have you Craig. Amazingly rational.

I thought you'd enjoy that runner.

Is Mise, one of my Muslim friends is a former lecturer of mine, who went to Mecca for the Haj last year, for the third time.

You know what he lectured in? Go on guess...

Nope, sorry, it was statistical analysis and numerical methods. How long does it take for the whole pondering thing to become a problem?

I'd reckon quite a while ago in your case...

yeah well Craig as long as he does not follow the footsteps of Mohammed you and him can remain good friends. Try pondering on that but I guess you have already shown yourself happy to be ignorant of what does not suite your narrative.

Banjo,

The first to note my lousy geography. I did realise what I had done - after it was too late. Your 20% bad eggs is likely to be close to the mark: it's uncanny how the Pareto Principle works for most things.

Mac,

Getting rid of Islam, or reform of Islam would rid us of a lot of trouble, but thanks to the Koran, reform is out of bounds. Christianity enjoyed reformation because it is closely tied to democracy. The Muslims who might desire reform (if the actually know the real horrors of Islam) could not achieve it, because Islam is not just a religion, but a complete form of governance, controlled from the top.

ttbn, there are active moslem organisations that advocate a reformation
like Christianity had. However they do run with little publicity.
They have to be very careful a it would not take much for them to be killed.
I presume they are largely a word of mouth movement.
They will have to eventually "come out".