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Muslim deradicalisation

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Watching media's response to the Northern Territory Don Dale youth detention centre scandal. What could be seen is a multiple number of political people expressing their; disgust in what they saw on 4 Corners; regrets to what's happening; stating desires for an inquiry into whose responsible; few people in the media mention how to improve and or how to change the system and or state what a long ago problem might exist. Change is difficult... to create something different than out of the box, established bureaucratic documented systems. Who takes responsibility if something was changed, then that changed something goes wrong and or doesn't work?

If asking a trivial pursuit story telling based education, A to F answered question to that same programmed skilled type of educated person. Ask a person in an authority of the education system, a question “why must aged 5 years children attend school when children are obviously not ready to attend school at such a young age”. An answer I received from a retired school principle was, “the parents (mothers) wants to go back to work”. The single answer to a single question seems to satisfy the retired school principle's requirement to answer a question.

Kindergarten, first grade or year one teachers may have forgotten their own childhood education, most probably due to repressed memories mental stress, only wanting to remember the pleasurable moments.
Year one teachers told to perform, year one teachers fearful of teacher inspectors and or principles questioning classroom children on how well children can spell words and add numbers. Year one teachers trying their best to focus aged 5 to 7 years children's attention on singular word letters and number symbols. Teachers constantly stopping children's learning flow, interrupting the flow of information to correct an individual child's hyperactive behaviour, a hyperactive child reducing their own not interested boredom. I suggest watching a below video steam if not watched before, “the last man standing, educating boyd” listening for several dramatised statements, boyd saying his teacher is boring; Tim Allen statements that “school is teaching children to hate learning”.
http://www.watchtvserieslive.org/last-man-standing-us-season-5-episode-4-educating-boyd/
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 28 July 2016 3:22:55 PM
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I scanned my channels in on my DVR, finding a channel devoted to Australian aboriginals. I occasionally switched to the NITV channel, seeing aboriginals doing what aboriginals do: climbing trees; walking in the desert; walking in the bush; add, limit impulse restraint needed control football to the list. I found the station very uninformative, soon deleted the channel. I would assume the channel was dummying down aboriginal people using their own boring life, replacing boredom with quick emotional decision making football enthusiasm.
Aboriginal youth bored by their own lives, stealing cars, because cars are their to be stolen. Not knowing whether aboriginal youth are school educated or not, I continue to place my opinions on bad education.

I also accuse everyday for every person media program productions of dummying down citizens using: crime; competitive trivial knowledge game shows; soft sex; terrorism; advanced science fiction; fairy tale stories. Rolling over the same themes using different images and or the same news images.

Politicians who say they need to respect the many religions and cultures. Are promoting the things that repress individual thought using religion's prescribed beliefs and cultural behaviours.

The retire school principle mentioned above, stated aboriginal parents don't want their children to be smarter than themselves. Whether the statement was invented; hear-say; or read from an educational department book... I don't know. I know a European background women, who, 30 years ago, she had 3 children, she remarked she “didn't want her children to be any smarter than herself”.

Religious, cultural and employment class background of children starting school aged 5 years, are not considered other than whether children can read on the first day of entering school.
The idea of asking parents or asking parents to get some person to show their children how to read before the first day of children attending school, may not be a priority, one reason being that teachers want continued teacher teaching employment, that teachers want to secure employment as teachers by teaching children who can't read, spell and or do maths.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 28 July 2016 3:30:02 PM
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I say, It is easy to teach children who can: think; who have no mental stress; who having no mental stress, can easily remember what's being read and what's being said by teachers. To do so, children need to be older than aged 5 years, free of emotional self-programming. Mentally stressed children who have mental stress repression behaviours, constantly repressing memories because what information is being read and said by teachers are being influenced by children's own constant mental stress awareness. Memorising information while being influenced by mental stress, both information and mental stress are being remembered as a complete memory, are by human brains own emotional self-programming, are constantly trying to repress memorising all repressing types of information.

The myth of learning while mentally stressed is good for children is incorrect. Learning something should not be influenced by: mental stress; fears; endorphins chemical rewarding. After information has been understood and remembered, only then, when humans are under mental stress to come up with solutions, understood memorised solutions comes to conscious awareness, together with comparing prompted solutions with thought out benefits, mental stress awareness levels will fall having problems solved.

Teachers being told by education departments, that mental stress is good for children, is sabotaging the learning process. The benefit of education to teachers are that teachers bad learning practices holds children and teenagers in school for many years longer than needed, securing employment for many more teachers than necessary.

On the second episode of Googled ABC1 television Revolution Schools which I remember as Revolution Education. A teacher talking about year 8 students, one question asked in an examination, “how many centre-metres in 27 metres”. The teacher said “all students incorrectly answered the question... 12 months earlier, all the students would have got the answer correct”. My opinion, supported by the example, was students are so mentally stressed and so easily distracted, students are easily forgetting what they eventually learnt.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 28 July 2016 3:33:44 PM
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Any politician that states government run curriculum education is the solution to Northern Territory juveniles hold in detention centres, are either very evil, saying what listeners expect politicians to say or merely stupid, having been educated not to think correctly... following the set out myths believed by that “I assumed” 95% of society.

Keeping 95% of citizens dumb, by keeping children and teenagers in repressing learning “juvenile detention centre” schools, providing increasing numbers of school “juvenile detention centre guards” teachers employment, keeping wage income unemployment government statistic figures low, only having to hire one teacher for every 30 students in a classroom.
Never heard from by the media: establishment, who I say are controlling my estimated, 90% of Australian wage paying employment. An establishment not having to invent wage paying employment for young adults held in schools to satisfy the delusion of democratic government legalised free market forces capitalism.

I speculate, establishment does not want to provide paid employment to Northern Australian aboriginals, where aboriginals live, where there are no need for increased payment wages employment. By using standard Naplan testing requirements as any government educational bureaucratic would recommend. There are no special considerations to aboriginals leading to qualified degrees that provide justification for wage paying employment opportunities in aboriginal communities. Using same tactics for Muslims; Asians and any other cultural disability by culture, immigrants.

The problem to the working class, that always exists, that education keeps the select few who are aware if children are not shown how to: think correctly; talk correctly; read proficiently, comprehending readings; do basic maths... before first attending school. School's juvenile detention will result in much similar behaviours as aboriginals seen in the Northern Territory juvenile detention centres, rebelling against and or holding back rebelling against authority abuses.
The people who know what education does, who are in the establishment “know”, get the best high paying employment, for the little work they do, keeping that 95% of remaining citizens ignorant of what is really happening to them.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 28 July 2016 3:37:37 PM
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ABC allegations on Cardinal Pell strange stranding full frontal naked in front of 3 boys in the 1970s.
All religious church leaders would be well aware of keeping humans dumb by constantly distracting individual human thought, by placing unrelated to humans' own self-individual benefits. Individuals own health and wealth in removing themselves from harmful environments: wars; coal mines; exhausting work; building houses with asbestos building materials during the 1950s, 60s and 1970s; to think that maybe why? them and their children are undergoing pointless school work and religious studies for no real benefit other than stopping children from thinking for themselves.
Christian religion didn't fade away until most homes contained a television, as to say television programming distractions replaced devoted to the afterlife religion: ceremonies; songs; pulpit preaching; story telling.

School education takes aged 5 years children forcing children to focus their attention on reading: fairy tales; famous names first to discover history; spelling words; maths... All of which are rotated every hour. Children's memories are devoted to simple no need to think for themselves pretend shallow conceptual thought, subconscious memories becoming increasingly traumatised by the long hours of pretend learning.

Children coming home after school, mentally exhausted, relaxing in front of the television. Television serious news being one of several stupid programs, work exhausted needing to relax people can watch. Rotating short running time period news stories, teachers ask children questions each following day, adding to the irrelevant historical knowledge children hear that does not aid children's own individual conceptual thought comparisons. Many aged 7 years children Revolution School says are being diagnosed with clinical depression, all children incapable of thinking for themselves other than processing rolled over school work: spelling; handwriting; maths. Society ends up with a work force of zombies who prompt thought towards whatever the media are going on about, populations adding their own comments into the mixture of negative criticism and political simplest of excuses.

There maybe a reason British television trivial pursuit competitors are called egg heads. Being that heads are full of goo.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 28 July 2016 3:48:15 PM
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July 27, TEN Eyewitness News at Five, reports how 4 years ago 2012-2013 NSW Health Care Complaints Commission received 4,554; 2015-2016 received 6,195 complaints. Below is the best searched website found within 10 minutes.
http://www.hccc.nsw.gov.au/Publications/Annual-Reports

My argument is that university educated professionals, exampling doctors and nurses focused on by the many complaints, are hurried through an irrelevant trivial pursuit single answer true or false education, traumatising students thinking processes as though society intelligence were only needed to build cathedrals under the instructions of a very few specialised cathedral designer builders. What religion did, using religious stories QandA, media and education curriculum does to dumb down present day human intelligence.

Medical profession, being the most life threatening to life, obvious need to complain about human inability to make decisions. There exists many university educated professionals and bureaucrats that write out reports on what happens in government and corporate systems. The next level of bureaucrats either don't bother to read reports or scan through reports looking for one single assumed answer to a question. I assume, no bureaucrat wants to be the barer of bad news, and or reports have few down side opinions.

Exampling the N.T. Don Dale youth detention centre, had been known for many years, that prisoner human rights were being violated, yet every person in authority ignored the human rights violation problem, quoting the one single answer to a school teacher question, that being “every person in the Northern Territory are fed up with young teenagers stealing motor vehicles”. The only shallow minded way to solve the problem was to place offenders in detention centres.

Takes about 3 days after the Four Corners Don Dale report before I hear a journalist mention aboriginal parents and the harsh environment in N.T. were to blame.

Poor language skilled parents and harsh environment conditions, doesn't allow aboriginal children to understand western fast speaking English media distractions. Nor does locking up teenagers with no English speaking television as punishment, allowing teenagers to become more angry and revengeful against authority that put them in detention centres in the first place.
Posted by steve101, Thursday, 28 July 2016 3:53:35 PM
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