General Comment
This is one of the 'boys' and it is all evidence and Court judgement,

http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/northern-territory/teen-bashed-people-and-tried-to-run-over-a-cop/news-story/1e1354f764011bb8afdd2ae06671a8d0

The 'torture' chair and 'blindfolded' meme? Neither! Misleading and deliberately so.

It looks like a quality restraint purpose made for violent persons and the 'blindfold' could be any of many meshes to cope with serial spitters.

The 'Nude Boy'? Again, the intention seems to be to prevent self harm and the suitable gown (white) is always nearby, but strangely NOT mentioned in the ABC reports.

Timely to mention too, that Australian Law and that of other developed countries regards spitting, especially on or at police and guards, as a serious assault. Missing the target is no defence. See here for a Qld example,
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/consol_act/cc189994/s340.html

Shadow Minister,

Sometimes it could be that the lean of the ABC to green left can lead it unconsciously choosing subjects that accord with its own green agenda, while rendering the ABC highly susceptible to manipulation from serial activists, opportunist politicians. For example, the Greens 'Protest' Party and in this case, a mess of compo seeking lawyers.

Especially with the added facility of social media there can easily be a coming together, a perfect storm, of (hypocritical) hysteria involving the leftist stirrers and all manner of bottom feeders, including some who trash Australia at every opportunity and have made money out of doing so for decades. - That would include the culturally cringing left for instance, and the well known gravy train.

Sometimes the hysteria-raising works for a time. Other times it doesn't and the usual leftist 'Progressive' culprits with human rights and multicult lawyers following them, go suddenly silent and move off for another target. Their enemy? Information, Facts and Truth.

to be continued..

continued..

However to tease out some evidence of lack of balance and the very poor (often one-sided) 'investigative' reports the ABC screens, why weren't there comparisons and contrasts made with the 'Bra Boys'.

Or better still the topical example of the Apex gang members in Victoria, where a kid gloves approach by government has arguably exacerbated the problem, but certainly has NOT diminished the growing problem.

The vexing problem is why do some indigenous youth and maybe the mainstream, do OK even bloom, whereas others do not?

Some indigenous do well in university, others in sport and still more are just average and leading normal happy, worthwhile lives. The same question can be asked of all youth who go astray and not just one sector and, the solutions are more likely found in studying the success stories, as unfashionable in some quarters as that is.

"The 'torture' chair and 'blindfolded' meme? Neither! Misleading and deliberately so.

It looks like a quality restraint purpose made for violent persons and the 'blindfold' could be any of many meshes to cope with serial spitters.

The 'Nude Boy'? Again, the intention seems to be to prevent self harm and the suitable gown (white) is always nearby, but strangely NOT mentioned in the ABC reports."

Which would explain why the Prime Minister "immediately" announced a Royal Commission.

Who would defend that kind of treatment in something called a "Correctional" facility?

otb would.

otb defends conduct that has disgusted people up and down the country and made headlines overseas.

He defends it!

"...a suitable gown (white) is always nearby..."

Yes? - and the multiple assault by the three thuggish guards - the ripping off of the "child's" clothes - the violent removal of his underpants?

How is the "suitable gown" seen as no threat, but the underpants are?

otb is "defending it".

What sort of depraved contortionist comes up with the kind of rationalisation that otb just plastered across this thread?

Warped....

Poirot, "the underpants"

You would have to consult the protocol for managing attempted self harm and yes, I would imagine that underclothes could be used.

A second consideration could have been that his clothes came into contact with sprays used to deter or suppress violence. Or were soiled otherwise. Would you rather the soaked/fouled clothes were left on to cause further irritation?

The gown? An approved one I would presume and designed fit for the purpose.

The ABC should have identified the approved protocols first, then outlined the presenting threat and environment, before using its large wooden spoon and generating speculative allegations, wouldn't you say?

The taxpaying public deserve more informative, better balanced, more professional reports from the national broadcaster.

No-one will be excusing or defending any wrongs by the staff involved.

From a cursory, layman's view of the facilities though, there is a long line of governments that have not built modern facilities for whatever reason, usually budget restrictions. Average, even accepting the obvious amount of damage caused by the violent occupants.

Has anyone made any comparisons with similar facilities for violent youth in the US and UK as examples? What is the best practice as far as handling serially violent youth offenders? Again, the ABC didn't bother.

Less sensationalism and more independence and facts ABC, please try.

On the advice of family and doctors - I am
leaving OLO. I shall not be back.

I wish you All The Best in your future discussions.

Be Kind to each other.

All The Best.

I want to thank onthebeach for the linked story and mature discussion. At the moment, we have a bunch of lefties condemning what they saw, but displaying no insight into the behaviour the warders deal with and offering no alternatives. On the other side, we have a bunch of rednecks who seem devoid of empathy and seem satisfied that these young people deserve everything they get.
We, as a society need to have discussions about issues like:
Under what conditions can young inmates be placed in solitary confinement?
Who decides and who reviews the decision?
How do prisons deal with cutters? Do wardens need to strip them, are we prepared to accept more self harm, or is there a third option?
What makes warders resort to violence and what processes are in place to manage these problems?
Under what conditions are inmates strapped to a chair and how can we deal with these conditions better?
No one seems ready to have a productive discussion and four corners did not discuss these matters in any detail.
Good luck Foxy.