From the news, it appears that the Orlando Islamic killer is likely a closet queen.

Maybe trying to adhere to the Islamic faith while being taught that homosexuals should die was too much?

Apparently tolerance is too much to ask for!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

So it's all down to gay-hating Muslims?

No doubt there are also a lot of evangelical Christians quietly celebrating the violent deaths of "hellbound sodomites" too.

For every crazed Imam there are many equivalent "God Hates Fags" preachers making the same public noises plus a few fanatics bombing abortion clinics.

The views of Pastor James Manning on the gay-inducing Starbucks lattes would be funny but for the fact that he has many followers.

"Haters gotta hate" and while no single religion is immune, all provide an excuse for personal prejudices.

Phano,
re - "migets"...... my reference wasn't to their lack of physical stature - it was to their lack of character and a solid sense of their masculinity.

As in, why do they feel the need to bolster themselves in such a way.

I'm sure women have their own failings....but they don't appear to include screaming around in high-powered cars - or carrying out mass shootings with monotonous regularity.

rache:

Did he carry out this attack because he was a gay-hater or because he was Muslim? Was he a gay-hater who just happened to be Muslim or was he a Muslim and all Muslims by definition hate gays?

If he was a gay-hater then it does not really matter that he was religious. Gay people are claiming he was a gay hater. You only need one motive to massacre people. Why are you bringing up the issue that some religions also seem to hate gays? There are many people who are not religious that are equally capable of such a massacre. He did not kill because he was religious but because he was a gay hater. Where that hate comes from is irrelevant. He killed because he hates gays but tomorrow someone else who is not religious could do exactly the same thing. The common factor is their hatred for gays not their religion or lack of it. It is irrelevant that this guy was religious. 50 people would have died either way.

If you have a problem with religious people hating gays then you should raise it when it is relevant. An event like this is not an opportunity to raise unrelated resentment.

It is also irrelevant whether or not this is a terrorist attack. He deliberately targeted gays and the authorities should not be trying to shift the attention from that fact. If someone else who has no religion does the same thing tomorrow will it be considered a terrorist attack? Those who are making it about terrorism are doing so to shore up their stand for tougher laws to stop extremists. Terrorists do not usually deliberately target aspects of western society but that society as a whole.

Nor is it all about guns. He could have gone into that club with explosives strapped to his chest and done just as much damage.

Here's a selection of runner's post on this thread,

"Oh yeah the gun laws, nothing to do with Islam. The pigheaded denial and ignorance shows why the West is stuffed"

"Islam and secularist are cousins. Islam kills the infidel while secularist murder the unborn."

"...Nothing to do with the Koran giving Muslim men that right is it?..."

"yep and the attacks in London, France, Belgium, Canada, Australia were all due to the gun lobby of the US. Nothing to do with Ramadam or the Koran..."

"One wonders whether next years Mardi Gras will be mocking Mohammed rather than Christ. I doubt it.

btw nice to hear of the muslim cleric who preached death to homosexuals in America currently in Australia and given a platform at uni in Western Sydney....."

"Further proof that Islam is the problem, not so much Muslims.'

half true Rechtub"

Here we go, runner...something to complement your run-by venom spits.

"Following the deadliest shooting in U.S. history, a Baptist preacher stood at his pulpit Sunday night in Northern California and delivered an impassioned sermon praising the brutal massacre at a gay nightclub in Florida.

Pastor Roger Jimenez from Verity Baptist Church in Sacramento told his congregation that Christians “shouldn’t be mourning the death of 50 sodomites.”

"He added: “The tragedy is that more of them didn’t die. The tragedy is — I’m kind of upset that he didn’t finish the job!”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/06/14/pastor-refuses-to-mourn-orlando-victims-the-tragedy-is-that-more-of-them-didnt-die/?tid=ss_tw-bottom

There's a nice Christian pastor...shall we now denounce all Christians?

Poirot:

“As in, why do they feel the need to bolster themselves in such a way.”

Women don’t need to bolster themselves then? Just because they do not drive around in high-powered cars and do not shoot people does not mean that their egos are perfectly formed and under control. Women do not do any damage to society? The Orlando shooter had a mother didn’t he? She is in no way responsible for how he turned out?