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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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Suseonline and Poirot have re-written all that is known from criminology and psychology and those dual Degrees are totally wasted.

Hey, who needs tiresome facts, when their lack of self-awareness beats science any day.

Nothing to see there.

BTT
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:11:39 AM
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Poirot:

So the best way to tackle the problem is to ridicule them by inferring they have small genitalia or that they are ‘fearful midgets’? That will surely solve the problem.

Had you been in that bar that night you would have walked up to the gunman and tried to reason with him and counsel him about it being ok to be small. At that moment he is as big as the gun he is holding.

Does every man who is small go out and buy a cache of guns just because he is insecure about his smallness? Why not? Your argument says that these people do what they do because of their smallness. If it is not universal then there must be other factors that are at play in their motivation. In this case factors such as homophobia or radical Islamism cannot be completely ruled out can they?

Perhaps America just needs to refine its gun laws and men must pass a test for ‘size’ before they can buy. According to you argument that would solve the problem. America could keep their guns, there would be no small men with guns and everyone would be safe again.

“How many women do that?”

So is it about all men or just those men lacking in size? What has gender got to do with it?

“So, phanto, your theory fails again.”

What theory have I previously expressed that is repeated here and fails for at least a second time? Why would you need to tell me that it has failed again? Is that some kind of triumphalism on your part?
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:12:21 AM
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Just as a point of interest the night club in Orlando where this latest massacre took place was a 'GUN FREE ZONE'.

Unfortunately only one of the patrons took no notice.

Yet another 'GUN FREE ZONE' mass murder; must be about time to get rid of such ideas that advertize that those present have voluntarily given up their rights under the US Constitution.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:12:49 AM
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Is Mise,

"Just as a point of interest the night club in Orlando where this latest massacre took place was a 'GUN FREE ZONE'.

Unfortunately only one of the patrons took no notice."

Well, if it wasn't such a serious subject, I'd be inclined to guffaw!

What is the use of a "GUN FREE ZONE" in a country bristling with firearms?

Never mind, the guns - let's put up a sign!

Are you seriously trying to tell me that a "GUN FREE ZONE" sign should be enough to stop a nutter in his tracks?

The US has more guns than people - and it has a population of around 330 million.

When the "US Constitution" was written, modern firepower wasn't even dreamed of.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:24:21 AM
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phanto,

I was taking up the argument on masculinity - and the curious incidence of "some" men having to bolster theirs by buying grunty cars and driving like maniacs - and others having to build an arsenal of weapons because they're so insecure.

I don't really give a toss how big their penis is.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 11:32:24 AM
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Poirot:

Suseonline referred to their 'equipment'. More specifically you referred to 'fearful midgets'. There can be fearful giants too can't there? So is their physical size relevant to your argument?

Now you are talking about 'masculinity'. How do we determine whether a man has the right amount of masculinity to buy a gun? Is their some kind of test? You are not arguing against anyone having a gun but only those who do not have the required masculinity. What is the point of offering a solution to the problem which can never be implemented because we cannot test for the required conditions?

Maybe you are not really looking for solutions but just another opportunity to point out failings that some men have which no woman has. Why should the genders have the same failings?
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 12:20:48 PM
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