Suseonline, "This shooter was born in America.."

It is usual for migrants and their descendants to maintain and become more extreme in the cultural traditions of their home country. That depends on where the migrants came from and some make it very plain that they are not th sort who can be relied upon to set up a peaceful community in the country and produce wine. Or work in their market gardens.

What to do where those traditions involve organised crime, cultural hatreds and noxious religious practices? There are many examples and not just the recent rapes of 'bare meat' in Europe and here too.

Insist on taking buckets from the wrong well and do not be surprised that the water does not improve, but can get worse with the keeping of it.

Armchair Critic, "the do-gooders"

However some, maybe many, who like to pose as 'do gooders' are motivated by self-interest, they earn their daily bread from their moral BS or from employment that depends of the victim industries, in NGOs funded by government grants, for instance.

Some like to strut their 'sensitivity' to impress and up-stage other posing air-heads. The one-upmanship of 'Holier than thou".

The leftists are inflicted by a self-loathing that dictates cringing genuflection to foreign cultures.

'Do gooders'? Do badders, more likely and they can't stop themselves.

They must be suffering from cognitive dissonance, feeling obliged to always buff up Islam and in this case a multiple murderer who shot fifty patrons in a gay bar and injured many more.

Suseonline and Poirot are struggling. That is obvious.

' Never mind that since this shooting, probably another 30-odd people have likely been slaughtered by firearms in America - over 200 a week are murdered by firearms on average.'

yes of course Poirot but we can't say that a group that make up less than 15% of the population commit over 50% of those murders. Hush hush. You need to be very cunning and dishonest or completely dumbed down to join the regressives. Just keep confirming your pathetically flawed narrative.

Here you go, SM....

I'll be waiting with baited breath for you to connect this guy with Islam...after all he was on his way to a gay parade with an arsenal of weapons.

"Police in Los Angeles have detained a man who was laden with guns and explosive materials on his way to the LA Pride festival."

Officers arrested James Howell with a carload of weapons hours before the annual LGBT parade in West Hollywood on Sunday.

Authorities said there appeared to be no connection with the massacre at an LGBT nightclub in Orlando but mobilised scores of law enforcement officers to protect the parade.

Santa Monica’s police chief, Jacqueline Seabrooks, initially said that Howell had told an officer that he intended to harm people at the event.

But she later issued a correction via Twitter stating that his intention had just been to go to the event, without giving any more information about why he was heavily armed.

Police found three assault rifles, high-capacity magazines, ammunition and a five-gallon bucket with chemicals capable of forming an improvised explosive device, said police spokesman Saul Rodriguez said.

Law enforcement agencies across LA county went on tactical alert and deployed patrols and undercover officers to protect the floats and marchers who paraded through West Hollywood, the heart of LA’s gay community."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/12/los-angeles-gay-pride-parade-man-arrested-arsenal-weapons

Sm, do yer reckon this fella is "sufficiently civilized to merge with the rest of the community"?

After all, why would we racially/religiously profile him, he's probably a nice white descendant of other nice white guys?

I'm sure it had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that firearms are so readily available to nutters in the US.

otb,

"Suseonline and Poirot are struggling. That is obvious."

Lol!...as opposed to what?

All the Donald Trump mimickers here?

Wowee!

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runner,

Run along, there's a good boy. Your trite and brief run-by posts display your total lack of substance re debate around here....barely worth the effort to read them.

One thing is for sure, which is that the sensationalising of the murders by the tabloids and political interests will lead to copy cats.

Nothing like confirming that the very best way to go out with a bang and get millions of dollars of free national and international publicity for themselves or their idiotic complaints is to murder a heap of people.

Of course where Muslim Jihadists are concerned they don't need much encouragement.

Struggling you say? Yes, I am struggling to understand the mentality of well-haired Trump crowing his joy at the shooting death of at least 50 people, and the maiming of scores of others, in that it now 'proves' he is right in wanting to deny all people from one religious group access to migrate to America.

Never mind that he continues to support the NRA in a country where shooting others dead, with easily acquired high powered guns made to shoot huge numbers of people quickly, is considered "...a God given constitutional right'. The Americans who support such a moron as Trump deserve him.

Oh joy of joys! More deaths caused by Muslims, and even better, they are dead gays. Now he can push his hate message barrow even faster towards the White House, as his dirty comb-over spills down his back in the foul wind around him, and his guns flap against his ample thighs.

Runner....words escape me where you are concerned.