Suse,

"Poirot, there is nothing 'wafty' about what Foxy or myself have said, it is just our opinions...on an opinion forum. We are not honor bound to explain our views to your satisfaction or anyone else's.'

I didn't say your opinions were "wafty"

I said:

"You and Foxy seem to look upon it in a romantic sense which is the overview, the general wafty feeling it gives you."

"You and Beach are very similar like that.
Your new aggressive style does you no favours."

Thanks, Suse...

Now it's "aggressive" to attempt to eleicit some substantial critique from fellow posters...instead of a nebulous overview of what your believe Turnbull represents.

My point is that Turnbull has revealed himself as the quintessential "Hollow Man" - the eloquent waffler who hasn't a clue what policy he should be delivering, is stumbling about in the dark and is not "strong".

"I am not saying Turnbull is that sort of leader yet, but he runs rings around Willie already. I don't really care whether you like that opinion or not, but there it is."

How about explaining to us "why" you believeTurnbull runs rings around Shorten?

That's really all I've been trying to get at on this and other threads....rather than vacant pronouncements.

Whether "I like" your opinions has nothing to do with good debate.

Paul you greens will obviously vote for the clan, no matter how ridiculous their policies, but you can't transfer your tribalism to thinking people.

In Turnbull we have a clone of the last grinning bag of hot air Rudd. The similarities are so complete I sometimes wish the dill would pull off the rubber mask, & show those who still believe he is different.

I can assure you, that if Turnbull still leads the libs come election day, they will go bottom on my ballot, well apart from the greens that is. No point in being stupid is there. I am one of many around here.

I do wonder how many will revert as you suggest, but it probably doesn't matter. As I suggested earlier, 3 months is far too long for Turnbull or stand serious scrutiny. Already we see his ridiculous idea of throwing tax at the states. Probably a reasonable idea if thought through, but as an election thought bubble, ridiculous.

By election day, it could be only Turnbull his wife, & perhaps Foxy being fair, left to vote for him, Oh & perhaps some who watch soaps. Turnbull looks like a character escaped from some lousy TV soap, more as each day passes.

Dear Hassie,

So I take it that you approved of keeping the
Knights and Dames titles (Turnbull scrapped them).
And you disapprove of Turnbull's front-bench
reshuffle which today has more women, including
the first woman as Minister of Defense. You
probably disapprove his $1 billion innovation
package as well (giving certainty to CSIRO) and
his disapproval of deregulating university fees,
and much more changes still to come including
investing in health, education, and so forth.
Ah well. it's your choice.

Foxy,

Donging knights and dames on the head is a minor act by Turnbull. It was so ridiculous and definitely a Captain's call by Abbott that it was never going to last. Okay, good, Mal did that...but let's not turn somersaults as if it will have some lasting legacy regarding good govt.

"Innovation package"....giving certainty to the CSIRO!

You have certainly had your head turned by Mal.

"Almost 3000 scientists from nearly 60 nations have appealed to Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and other Australian leaders to halt the CSIRO's plans to halve the number of researchers working on climate monitoring and modelling.
In a letter that was also sent to the CSIRO's board and chief executive Larry Marshall, the 2900 researchers said the decision to cut 100 full-time positions out of about 140 staff from two units of the Oceans and Atmospheric division "alarmed the global research community".

The decision to decimate a vibrant and world-leading research program shows a lack of insight, and a misunderstanding of the importance of the depth and significance of Australian contributions to global and regional climate research," the letter said."

"The academy a week ago warned that the proposed job losses would cut deeply into programs that had already lost $20 million in the 2014-15 budget."

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/csiro-climate-cuts-devastating-almost-3000-scientists-tell-malcolm-turnbull-20160211-gms3ea.html#ixzz44YFFLCI9

Education....how innovative to suggest to cease federally funding state education - but to keep on federally funding private education. That's what Mal has in mind.

Turnbull has already taken the chopper to certain pathology services rebates...affecting women in particular (but let's remember there's more women in his cabinet, so that makes up for it, eh?)

You'd be familiar with the petitions in pathology labs - all over the country at the moment fighting these cuts...that was Marvellous Mal's handy work.

I repudiated the Abbott govt's delivery of the IPA's agenda.

I also repudiate the Turnbull govt's delivery of the IPA agenda.

BTW....passing back income tax to the states is No. 7 on the IPA's wishlist.

Dear Poirot,

Yes I have had my head turned by Malcolm Turnbull.
I admit that. I like the man.

All I ask is give him a chance to show us what he
can (or can't) do after the election.

I have every confidence that he will surprise us once
he comes into his own. For now he
has to consult with the Cabinet if he wants to survive
as their Party leader. I believe that the decisions which
are being made currently are the Cabinet's. And yet he is
still making progressive changes as he goes along.

We really don't want a repeat of what happened with Gillard
and Rudd before the last election. Internationally it was
a disaster. Lately, the PM's position is a revolving door
and we are tired of explaining Australian politics to
our overseas friends. We need stability in government which
hasn't been the case in the past few years.

Foxy you show no logic.

I can't believe you can be so smitten by a pretty face that you can ignore the ratbaggery of the last couple of months. The idiot is desperate to try to find money, almost anywhere, that he can use to try to buy the votes he craves. How many wild schemes does he have to float, before you see how hopeless the man is.

His only plan or interest is to be elected, with no thought of the future.

I recall you actually approved of the equally ratbag Rudd right through. Foxy, good intentions are of no use & they cost too much, & produce nothing but waffle. Hard headed action is what we need.

Are you really so in love with this bloke, that you want to elect him, before you have any ideas of his likely actions. There is no way you can know his likely actions, & the idiot can't tell you what they are likely to be, as he has no idea yet what he will do. You obviously believe he is lying to us, & will act differently if elected. That alone should bar him from election.

I have no interest in minor things like knighthoods, they cost nothing & mean even less, I do care about the ridiculous cost of the academic world, & it's inability to give results, despite costing multiples of what we paid in the past, when results were achieved.

Overblown feather bedded sheltered workshops like the modern CSIRO have to go. It is so long since it produced anything useful, & the climate science scam, one of Turnbull's favourites, just gave me my first $1000 electricity bill, thanks to solar & wind.

We used no more power than just 4 years ago, when the bill was $360 for the same 3 months.

God how we need Trump, Abbott, [with a bit of steel grafted into his backbone], & Boris [Johnson] in the UK. The bleeding hearts could bleed even more, but real people might get some sense back into the world.