Dear Poirot,

That's because I obviously didn't know what I
was talking about - which is what I admitted
after having read your posts that were so
much more substantial. ;-)

Foxy,

You posted a few posts about the govt's optimistic take on its slogan du jour - and I posted a few articles which expose this govt's complete dearth of anything approaching innovation.

The thing is that this is an adult forum. Your last reply to me was dripping with sarcasm, and reminded me of the sort of debates I might have had in the quadrangle of my high school circa 1975.

Which really makes the whole exercise somewhat pointless....

What I find so hard to understand is how many people could not see through Rudd, Turnbull & Obama & Blair if we go off shore.

Our two are so obviously empty bags of hot air, without a practical bone in their bodies. Our US & UK examples are no better. Why do people fall for these slick talking wind bags? Granted they are reasonably decorative, but are our ladies so easily lured by a pretty face? For most men it is a bit of a turn off.

Hell with Turnbull we even had plenty of forewarning, with the egotistical clowns behaviour with the republican convention.

Granted the thought of Shorten & even worse Plibersek, is a bit frightening, but still preferable to actually electing this clown. Can you imagine how crazy he will be, if actually elected to the job?

Can the western world survive this apparent naivety of today's electors? I doubt it, but then does it deserve to survive? I do feel sorry for the mess we are bequeathing to our grand kids.

Now Foxy and Poirot what is called for is a bit of 'Solidarity' on this. We need you two to post your usual reasoned intelligent comments on this topic as you do on every other forum discussion thread. Both of you, along with a couple others are the best commentators here. On this one like every other discussion the right wing ratties, aka, the 'Usual Suspects' are on the ropes.

Here's something, I was in Tasmania recently and the state is facing a terrible power and water crises. The State Liberal Government led by Wally Hodgeman is in a total quandary as what they should do, they have absolutely no idea. If the dissatisfaction flows over to the federal sphere Jacqui Lambie could retain her seat easily.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-12/more-delays-in-basslink-repair-tasmanian-premier-confirms/7162382

'What I find so hard to understand is how many people could not see through Rudd, Turnbull & Obama & Blair if we go off shore.'

Yeah Hasbeen the uni's and media have certainly dumbed down the average voter by a long way. Fancy going from Howard to Rudd and then Gillard. We certainly ain't the smart country.

The original question for this discussion was "Can Malcolm Turnbull Defeat The Opposition Leader?"
Answer : Yes he will.

Why?
Because despite Mal's weak policies, poor relationship with his treasurer (and other far-right apostles), and his obviously fading popularity, he is still the front runner for the coming election in all the polls.
And despite all these shortcomings, Mal is still favored as leader over Abbott by the majority of his own party.

So, what does that say about Willie Shorten and his crowd then?
Not much...