Dear Hassie,

I feel that Mr Shorten has very little chance of
defeating Malcolm Turnbull. He just doesn't come
across as a strong leader.

But I could be wrong of course.

Hasbeen "Foxy, kid you've got to get out more. Around this previously very safe Liberal electorate, Turnbull is less popular than Abbott ever was. In fact, he is even less popular than Gillard ever was, & that is really saying something. "

Really? Are you just saying how you and some like-minded old friends feel Hasbeen, or have you done an actual poll in your 'very safe Liberal electorate'?
I tend to believe actual official polls in these matters and not listen to people still crying over Abbott's demise.

Turnbull remains the preferred leader in the polls at present, leaving Shorten some way behind....and Abbott isn't even on the horizen. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-22/newspoll-support-for-turnbull-government-drops/7188518

Hasbeen, I'm curious as to which previously very safe Liberal seat Turnbull's so unpopular in now. Is it one where the X-Men are running?

As long as Turnbull keeps to Abbotts policies he will survive. The abc will ensure that their man is elected. If he invites the illegal and terrorist like Rudd did or again tries to bring in an idiotic tax the conservatives will rebel. He will also need to keep Tony's stand on 'gay' marriage. How plastic can a person be. He has not had one original idea. Personally I see the conservatives splitting from the regressives. Meanwhile our country goes down the toilet with debt. It matters little if Shorten or Turnbull set future generations up with misery. They are 2peas in a pod.

we are forgetting that Abbott did stop the boats, he did axe the carbon tax and he did scrap the mining tax. There is a fair chance voters will realise Abbott was a doer and there is also a better chance, that if given another go, he would not make any more so called 'captains picks'.

What ever happens Turnbul has shown he is just another Rudd look a like, a real dud!

As for labor, few will ever forget the mess they created, at least not this soon.

OTB, you pontificate on all manner of topics on this forum, your 5000 plus postings attest to that fact. Presenting yourself as the all knowing, all seeing political guru. However the vast majority of your prognostications only go to show your abnormal fixation with The Greens. It is remarkable that, despite having no knowledge, or no understanding of the party, its leadership or grass roots membership, you feel justified in slamming The Greens at every opportunity, all from your point of ignorance.
In NSW both Lee Rhiannon and David Shoebridge enjoy a very high level of popular support, as does Richard Di Natale federally, levels of party support that Turnbull, Abbott and Shorten would be envious of I'm sure. As for policy i let my views be known when called for, and its not always in agreement with party policy. Can I ask do you and Jim ever disagree?

It is my opinion, given a narrow Turnbull victory at the next general election Abbott would feel personally justified in seeking reinstatement to the top job. Abbott does not see his political career as over, and that there is nothing more for him than to cool his heels on the back benches until he retires some time in the future. No way, Abbott still sees himself as leadership material, and as the best man for PM. Incidentally Turnbull has a better relationship with Shorten than he does with Abbott, they at least talk sociably when they bump into each other, Turnbull and Abbott don't even bid each other the time of day.there are several people in the government who Abbott simply wont talk to.