Misopinion,

"The whites have stolen their land, raped their women, murdered their men, women, and children, and tried to conduct a genocide of aboriginal people. "

Feel better now ?

Do you have any evidence for your statements ? You might find some counter-evidence on: www.firstsources.info - give it a try if you're serious.

Violence: I recall seeing a bloke on one settlement kicking his girlfriend about: when she was on all fours, he place-kicked her, right under the chin. Ooooover she went, and when she eventually got up, she crawled away and I never saw her again.

A nephew was laughing one night, after a couple of mates (all Aboriginal, by the way) got badly inured in a car roll-over. They'd called in late that night to get him to join them: they had another bloke in the back, drunk, from another family, and my nephew joked about how the boot flew open when the car rolled and a shovel fell out.

A friend was living in Tennant Creek, and was mowing his front lawn one day and had to go around the back for something. When he got back, the mower was gone but he could hear it down the street at an Aboriginal bloke's place. He complained to the local Aborigines Affairs office and was given a form to fill out for compensation. Later that day, the Aboriginal bloke brought it back, complaining that he had run out of petrol.

Now that's plain arrogance.

My Aboriginal wife and I put fifty years into the Indigenous cause, but I think, if I had my time over again, I wouldn't have wasted so much of it on wild-goose chases; I should have been a bit more sceptical and selective.

On the other hand, the2015 half-year uni figures are just out on https://docs.education.gov.au/node/39331 and although new 'domestic' student numbers fell by 0.1 %, Indigenous numbers rose by 8.6%. In last year's full-year figures, it seems that commencements had doubled in less than ten years. The equivalent of half of an age-group enrols these days. Any comment, Misopinion ?

Joe

Hi there JOHN BIG MAC...

I dunno mate I think you're being over simplistic with your take on black behaviour in the bush? Most of them are proud people, with an abundance of self-respect for their immediate ancestry, moreover their etymology, a history of which they're immensely proud. What they don't understand is the many inconsistencies and contradictions we seem to have, in our own contemporary society.

I attended a decent blue, at a near town station homestead, where mum and an intoxicated dad were having a real domestic barny, throwing crockery, swearing and shouting etc, to a point the worried (white) overseer summoned us. The long and short of it, a stern warning of arrest sufficed, plus profound undertakings to behave by both protagonists, and all was good. Some weeks later a domestic ensured (entirely due to intoxication) amongst the station's blacks, and the main offender was pinched? A paradoxical situation at first sight, most certainly in the mind of the now sober black transgressor. The Boss and his missus had this big blue, and the coppers only warned them! this was definitely racism?

I should add JOHN, I have absolutely no specialist knowledge whatsoever of Australian Aboriginality per se, I speak only from what I've witnessed while working in the bush.

ttn: All aborigines in jail are in jail because they are criminals

Yes, but you can't say that because, "it's inappropriate."

runner: One might also look at the reasons why men bash women.

Probably because the men have put up with Constant S#it from the woman for weeks on end & snapped. But, saying that is also, "inappropriate."

Foxy: Education also is part and parcel of what is acceptable behaviour in any civilised society.

Yes, being an Educated Financial Advisor or Lawyer give you the nouse to be able to legally get away with criminal behaviour.

SOL: Aboriginal people are hugely represented in our jails, Maybe they are targeted too much?

Yes they are, I wonder why? Targeted, If the Police & the Magistrates allowed the amount of criminal activity to be fully prosecuted the Aboriginal jail community would triple over night. Talk to any Copper. They'll tell you that they will get a phone call & told to drop certain charges on Aboriginal criminals Influence from above, Back-up from the ex-police community.

Foxy: Perhaps you need to take a closer look at the causes of people's behaviour.

Yep, done that. Here's the results. Drunkenness, misplaced Sense of Entitlement, Drugs, fu(# Whitey, & a few others.

Foxy: That re-offending rates are high that young Aboriginal people especially in rural and remote areas are offenders.

There is a variety of reasons for this. Family breakdowns, lack of language skills, health problems, police behaviour, poverty and
unemployment, inadequate legal representation, police behaviour and people's attitudes

Bordom is the main cause. but I wonder what these kids did before the coming of Whitey.

cont.
Family Breakdowns; Yes, Mom & dad are drunk 24/7 & screwing in the street.

Lack of Language skills; Interesting one this. I grew up with a lot of Aboriginal kids. They all went to the same Christian school as I did in a large town, AYR. All of these kids were good kids, never got into trouble & spoke impeccable English. Years later & most are involved the various Aboriginal Agencies that have been set up, ripped off, disbanded, repeatedly. I run into them occasionally & I've asked, Why do you now speak "Burry" instead of the proper English you grew up with. I'm suddenly racist.
Health Problems; Most of these are self-inflicted.
Poor Hygiene (they have been taught better.), Drunkenness, Drugs, Don't bathe, Don't wash their clothes, Don't clean their yards or house of rubbish. Junk food diet, s#it anywhere & everywhere they like. & yes, I do know that.
Unemployment; Unemployable for all the above reasons.
Inadequate Legal Representation; Crap, They get the best & for free.
Police Behaviour; you mean picking them up if they have committed a crime.
People's Attitude; Well if you have been moored in Ross Creek, beside what the locals refer to as "The Reserve" & all of the above. That's no contest.

"The Reserve"; I suggested that they put a fence around it, throw in a few Wallabies, Emus, some Goonies & Spears. It would make a great "Nature in the Raw" Doco. ;-) You can watch them, fornicate, defecate, fight, fall over, sleep, try to get up, abuse whitey, (no language difficulties there) decorate the trees with Christmas tinsel (Goonies). Then there is one of the shows they put on. One little old skinny lady & her skinny husband going for a walk in the Mall. Both as drunk as skunks. She chases him up the Mall screaming abuse (in beautiful Burry) then it reverses he chases her back up the Mall with a stick (in equally beautiful Burry), Then they buy a new Goonie at the Sugar Shaker (Hotel) & head back to the Park.

cont.
Oh, what, Do you mean it already happens without the fence? ;-)

Mr Opinion: Are you actually aware of just how simple minded you look when you come out with the sort of statements you make?

& your Credentials are? University & Politically Corrected? Or, Aboriginality Biased?

OSW: I dunno mate I think you're being over simplistic with your take on black behaviour in the bush?

Most Bush Aboriginal people are good people. It's the Townies that are the problem. Especially if their Ancestry has been "townie" for 100 years or more.

mHaze, your story is, Oh so familiar.

Mr Opinion: It tells me that neither of you have any knowledge of the historical processes that have been shaping the world over the past 5000 years.

Shouldn't that be 1.5 million years. Unless, you're one of those weirdo (6000 year old World) Christians.

runner: Many aboriginals show utter contempt for what they consider white man’s law.

Well, I've said it before & I'll say it again. Maybe Aboriginal Law should be re-enacted.
Steeling If I remember is a Spearing in the thigh offence,
Wife-Steeling is a wrapping in Wire netting & thrown over the Burdekin Falls Type Offence.
(Old Granddad & GrandMa story from Ravenswood about from 1900. It Took 3 Tribes, 3 days running in relays to catch him. He also ran through the house & stole my GrandMa's maid. Real Stories from the Bush.

Jayb,

"Don't clean their yards or house of rubbish."

Don't you realise that it's not their rubbish ? Who made all that packaging ? Whitefellas ! So whose job is it to clean it up ? Obviously ! Whitefellas ! But they won't, will they ?! Racist bastards !

And all those white people in towns get their houses and yards (which they get for free, like their cars) cleaned up for free, and beautiful gardens put in for them - so why can't Blackfellas too ? Especially because it's our land !

Yeah, It's a racist world. Poor Blackfellas.

Joe