Misopinion,

'Hidden' ? If you check out my web-site, www.fitstsourcves.info, you'll find around fifteen thousand pages, maybe twenty by now, of documentation. Sorry if it doesn't match your prejudices.

Joe

JohnBigMac back again.
I have read and listened to all the bleeding hearts.
Aboriginals were not the first or only people in early history.
All the other races have developed and progressed and invented.
Some have crawled from the cave and reached the moon.
The aboriginal has .
Weather through lacking in something in the brain or some other failed pathway.

What excuse do they offer.
Blaming others doesn't work. When other peoples arrived here from their cities with science,ships,navigational instruments and clocks they were met by naked people who had we are told had 40,000 years of DEVELOPMENT.
So explain that.
Even with the example of white mans inventions what have aboriginals developed created invented since. During this same period white man has gone to the moon and developed dialysis machines to name one in a billion developments.
The oldest boomerang is from Poland , some 600 years old, think that one through.
Most other developments claimed by aboriginals came from the Indonesian contact.

Sorry bleeding hearts, time to open those eyes
JohnBigMac

'evening to you FOXY...

Mumma Shirl was a very spirited lady indeed and as you say, she didn't suffer fools (or any policeman) gladly. At least you could express an opinion that was not particularly complimentary to blacks, and if it was fair comment, she copped it! I heard she passed on, but I hadn't seen her since the early 1980's when I was ultimately transferred. She was a very special lady who regrettably was never really acknowledged as such? The 'Australian of the Year' awards; Mumma Shirl would've been an exemplary candidate in my opinion, if the institution had existed in those days?

'I have some doubts about the extent of the horror of traditional Aboriginal life, the recent claims are very convenient to counter evidence of bad European behaviour.'

I would say your doubts are convenient Cossomby. I have spoken to many elders and have no reason to doubt what they say. Noel Pearson's take on things seem to be very balanced.

Cossomby, you wouldhave no idea; sorry.

prigyb,

You declaim about " .... the peoples that represent the world's oldest culture."

In fifty-plus years, I've never understood that: all human groups have always had 'the world's oldest culture', by virtue of being human. After all, we all came out of Africa.

Do you mean the 'world's most unchanging culture ? How is that a positive ? That sounds suspiciously conservative to me.

The tragedy for Aboriginal people in Australia is to have been cut off from the rest of the world for so long, on a continent with no domesticable animals, and no domesticable plants. So they were condemned to be nothing but hunter-gatherers for sixty thousand years.

Condemned ? Now that Aboriginal people control vast areas, do you see many flocking to go back to that life, prbgydfitb ? What sort of life do Aboriginal people seem to prefer, judging by their free movements ?

My wife was Aboriginal, our kids are Aboriginal. We made Aboriginal Flags back in the early seventies, a couple of hundred of them, and sent them around the country: two factory workers.

But if you're pig-ignorant enough to 'know' better, go for it.

Joe

Loudmouth, I have to say that I am totally confused by your last post.

Nowhere did I 'declaim about the peoples that represent the world's oldest culture' or claim that I know it all.

I told a story about how one Aboriginal family had been disrupted over the last 60 years, as an example of the difficulties of breaking the cycle. Their story really affected me, and I have a crystal clear memory of hearing it. I've spared the readers here some details that I can hardly bear to remember, but will never forget.

Then I thought, he's muddling me up with someone else, prigyb. But I can't find any posts by prigyb!

Then I thought, why is he attacking me? I would have thought he would understand the point of my posts.

Then I thought, this doesn't sound like Loudmouth at all, maybe someone has hijacked his name.

So, Joe, if it wasn't you, or you didn't mean me, shalom.