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Aboriginal Crime

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A fair number of aboriginals have been employed by the mining industry. There are some great success's and great failures. Some starting to earn big money only to find family members who won't work want a slice of the hard earned dollar. Soon the young enthusiastic worker loses heart. Often its the women's side of the family wanting the money. It is also very hard for an Indigeneous person to live at a camp away from his woman. Although not unique to the Indigeneous, being away creates a lot of strife. Hopefully in future generations these cultural ties will stop holding more of these young guys back.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 28 January 2016 3:33:30 PM
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I have been wondering about those group of
Teenagers in that stolen car that killed that pregnant mother
The other day.

Were they aboriginal?

I wondered this because the breaking into homes and stealing
Cars has become the favourite pastime of aboriginal youth
In this city in the last few years.

They lock them up briefly and the next week they are out stealing
Another car and driving in life threatening ways on the city's roads.
If they were aboriginal, then their negative attitude has resulted
In the death of this young mother.
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 28 January 2016 4:19:14 PM
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'I have been wondering about those group of
Teenagers in that stolen car that killed that pregnant mother
The other day.'

not sure Cherful but the stabbing murder in Perth after Australia day celebrations were two groups fighting. The name of the deceased was not allowed for cultutal reasons.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 28 January 2016 4:26:04 PM
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The White people took our land.

Nobody gave me or any white people I know
Any land. We had to work 24/7 for decades to
Obtain land of our own.

I do acknowledge the complete supremacy of
The British Empire at the time they sent ships to Australia.
Not many societies in the world could push them back
Out of their countries. They were too
Advanced in weapory and know how.

They regarded native people as almost a part of the wilderness,
To be studied like flora and fauna.

Like an advanced alien race might regards us earthlings
If they landed here to day.

They did not understand a civilisation without organised
Towns and an industrious outlook. To them to have no
Level of higher civilisation was akin to being part of the
Quaint and exotic bush land around them

It is only over time that they came to very much see
The humanness of the native peoples by having
Much more close contact with them.

To the credit of the British and Europeans they have included
This idea of non racism and equality into the school learning systems.
Something I doubt most other countries in the world have done.
Still, it can be taught, but it remains to be seen in coming generations
What the results will be. Most races and other countries
Are not even attempting to address these issues.
And you can't treat people equally if they don't afford you
The same respect.
Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 28 January 2016 4:50:17 PM
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Cherful: I know lots of people - dozens personally, hundreds if I counted descendants of families - who have been given land. In the 1800s you could select a block on a pastoral lease. In the 1890s-1900s you could put your name in a ballot for a pastoral lease or a fruit block. You wanted to set up a commune in the 1890s - the government would give you land (SA,QLD).

Whole settlements and towns were created this way. Sometimes you had to be a returned soldier (at least a white one) - those blocks were available in the 1920s and 1950s, so I know some individuals still alive who were given that land. The government produced booklets of the leases or blocks on offer, so you could pick the ones you liked the look of. Of course there were conditions - you might have to pay rent initially, or make improvements. In many places the soldier settler blocks were too small or in poor country or the returned soldier inexperienced and they failed.

Now if you live in Sydney, for example, you do have to pay a lot for land, but the first white people got that land as a land grant. It gained value as it was on-sold over the years, and when you finally buy some you too will make a profit when you sell. So you and I may have to pay now, but the land was initially given to white people and that free handout - 1790s, 1800s, 1950s - boosted the developing economy - it's a primary factor in the success of Australia.
Posted by Cossomby, Thursday, 28 January 2016 5:47:23 PM
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Runner:
Social workers... "Unfortunately some are from NZ and feed the aboriginals the usual (whites stole the land) narrative."

mm, somehow I don't think Aborigines need social workers from NZ or elsewhere to tell them that white people stole their land. They'd be telling the social worker.

However I had this vision...

In Menindee, say, NZ social worker rolls into town in 2016, chats up Aborigine.

Kiwi: I'm rilly sorry to brik the niws to you, but white Austrilians stole your land. I know it cimes as a big shock but sit down, I'll get you somthin to hilp with the trauma of finding out, I'm a sicil wirker.

Aborigine: What! How come I've been kept in the dark so long! Why didn't mum tell me when my sister was taken away! Why didn't granma tell me when she was rounded up out Ivanhoe way and trucked to the mission here! Why did granpa mention it when he told me how his father was shot at by the station boss! You mean all this happened because white Australian stole out land? How could I have not known? Thank you, thank you for coming all the way from NZ to put me straight! Hey what about your Maoris ...

PS I'm allowed to sind up Niw Zilinders, because I'm half one.
Posted by Cossomby, Thursday, 28 January 2016 6:09:39 PM
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