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Posted by John Big Mac, Thursday, 28 January 2016 6:37:08 PM
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Sorry, John Big Mac, that's nonsense for my neck of the woods.
In WNSW, Aboriginal families brought up the children fathered by whites in the 19C (started ca 1840s) - those part-Aboriginal people became the backbone of the pastoral industry until closer settlement. There were few religious missions out here, and they didn't last long - their records bemoan the fact that Aborigines won't stay on the mission because they are employed. Aboriginal Protection Board records say the same; though rations etc. were provided for old people. There are APB census counts of people (by 'caste', sex, age), and sometimes by name. Inter-tribal marriage, children, really didn't start until the 1930s, when different groups were herded together from long distances onto government reserves (often called 'missions'). Those kids were not abandoned on the side of the track, I know lots of them, and they know their siblings, who stayed, who was taken. This knowledge is handed down in families, but it's also documented in government records. Here the removals were a mid 20th century phenomenon, and done by welfare workers in cars and by train. Over the years I've heard many stories from people born in the 1930s-60s of what happened in their family. I've been approached by others who were removed to help find their family. There are stacks of books: histories, family stories, autobiographies, that tell the real story. I'm happy to provide a comprehensive reading list. Or if you don't believe what you read, introduce you to Aboriginal people who actually know what happened. You can stop purveying myths. Posted by Cossomby, Thursday, 28 January 2016 8:01:11 PM
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John Big Mac, is that so, or is it all a figment of your imagination to suit your racists narrative. Now would you like to post evidence to support what you say.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 28 January 2016 8:08:47 PM
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Cherful: They regarded native people as almost a part of the wilderness, To be studied like flora and fauna.
Yes they did. It was because they had not come across any humans that were still living in the Stone Age of some 50000 years ago. Cherful: It is only over time that they came to very much see the humanness of the native peoples by having. Much more close contact with them. I believe it was Captain Phillip that issued the order that the Natives must be treated with respect. Even going so far as to suffer a spearing because he had transgressed one of their Laws. It was subsequent Governors that treated the natives badly. Paul1405: or is it all a figment of your imagination to suit your racists narrative. Don’t get yer knickers in a knot Paul. Unfortunately it’s all too true. Even the Lady who wrote the “Rabbit Proof Fence” said a lot of what they put in the Movie was BS. It made the Movie more interesting & got people talking. That’s all. The NT chap whose job it was to oversee the round up described how the Half Castes & Intertribal Children were shunned by the tribes. The kids were beaten & raped constantly. It’s all in his Report. They had some sort of Commission a few years back & the Aboriginal Groups tried to get his Report banned from the proceedings. He wasn’t talking about Townies here. Anyone remember that? Just to clear things up & put a bit of prospective into this Child Stealing thing. What makes you think it was only Aboriginal Children that were stolen. Many White mothers had their children taken off them too. Especially, if they were born out of Wedlock. My first wife is an example of this. She had a daughter forcefully taken from her at the birth. She didn’t even see her child. Poor families in the Depression often had their children taken away from them & Prostitutes were a target also. Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 28 January 2016 9:12:49 PM
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JayB I'm not getting my knickers in a knot, but I hate it when people post hearsay and their own thoughts and make out its fact.
I live in inner Sydney, don't forget 2/3's of the Aboriginal population live in the eastern states and its a myth that the majority live in remote locations, 75% live in cities, 2/3's are under 30 years of age. and Redfern in inner Sydney is Australia's largest Aboriginal community. Just yesterday I met for the first time a young Aboriginal activists "Dave", a well educated young bloke who is pro-active in Aboriginal affairs, our topic for discussion came down to the 1840 Treaty of Waitangi. and the Maori Land Court system in NZ, and its implications for Maori, many Aboriginal people want a treaty, but its not as clear cut as it might appear. 'The Rabbit Proof Fence' an enjoyable movie, but as you say a fair amount of licence was taken, and for good reason, people like their movies to be successful at the box office, otherwise no more movies. Although history is important, as is the here and now, but the future is far more important than both. Most of the threads discussion has concentrated on the history and what's happening now, but little discussion on the future for Aboriginal people, and they do have a future and lets hope it is a positive one. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 29 January 2016 4:25:57 AM
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Political Correctness,
It simply doesn't do to recognise the children from the 'mainstream' population who were State Wards. Or their shabby, often harsh and cruel, treatment by the State that was supposed to protect them. <Forgotten Australians, Forgotten Australians' is a term the Australian Senate has used to describe children who were brought up in orphanages, children's homes, institutions or foster care in Australia. It is generally used to describe those in care between the period 1920-1970 but can refer to earlier and later periods. Forgotten Australians may also identify themselves as "care leavers, homies, state wards or ex-residents¹ " Approximately 500,000 children were placed in institutional care, many of whom experienced neglect and abuse. On November 16th 2009, the Australian Government formally apologised to Forgotten Australians and child migrants on behalf of the nation. Accessing records A child's care could have been arranged by the state, by a church or welfare organisation or organised privately. If you were a state ward or the Government was involved in your care in other ways, a government agency should hold a record of this. If you were not under state care, you will need to contact the organisation that was responsible for your placement. Please consult the state specific sections of this page for more information about accessing records. Victoria - current records Victoria - historical records (over 100 years old) New South Wales Queensland South Australia Tasmania Western Australia Australian Capital Territory Northern Territory For further information about Forgotten Australians, accessing your records and support services we recommend visiting the Find & Connect Australia and CLAN : Care Leavers Australia Network websites. (1. Forgotten Australians: Supporting survivors of childhood institutional care in Australia / Alliance for Forgotten Australian 2008)> http://guides.slv.vic.gov.au/c.php?g=245251&p=1633053 Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 29 January 2016 6:10:24 AM
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Stolen generation
Don't forget aboriginals do not accept aboriginals of another skin (tribe).
So
If a child was born of mixed skin neither tribe would accept it and it was put out on the track for the white constable to collect on his rounds on horse , maybe alive, to take to the nearest mission station and another of the stolen generation now claimed.
If parents abandoned their kids by drinking or cultural reasons nice again the constable would often step in.
Not religious fanatics stealing children at random to save them for Christ or who ever.
JohnBigMac