"Just to add reinforcement to your misguided theory, ....it
was only yesterday that Tony Blair admitted publicly that
the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" was a LIE!....but maybe he
was telling "porkies" too?"

I've gotta call you out that one Crackcup. He said that there were no WMD's and he said he was sorry for that. But nowhere did he say that he or anyone else lied about it. The intelligence was (probably) wrong but that doesn't mean he lied. He just relied to much on data that turned out to be less than completely accurate.

Dear mhaze,

Thanks for the statistics but I find these figures hard to digest.

Sydney alone has over a million people who are designated Chinese by nationality per se. That makes 5% of the country's population by itself. Then you've got the other major cities and all those naturalised people who count themselves as Chinese by descent and culture.

Take a walk around the CBD of Sydney and you'll notice that 2 in 3 persons are Chinese; then take a walk around some of the major suburban centres like Hurstville and Chatswood and you'll notice that it's almost 9 in 10 are Chinese. And when you travel on public transport virtually anywhere in greater Sydney half the passengers are Chinese.

I suggest you throw your figures in the trash bin and get out into the real world and let your eyes do the counting.

PS I'm guessing by your comments that you don't live in Sydney and probably reside in one of those country towns where the only Chinese you ever see are the ones running a local restaurant.

Mr Opinion,

I got my figures from various locations but primarily from the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3412.0/

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/3412.0Main%20Features32013-14?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=3412.0&issue=2013-14&num=&view=

Now I do whole-heartedly accept that the ABS got their figures by doing extensive surveys, examining census data and accessing immigration records. Clearly those methods are nowhere near as accurate or scientifically based as taking a stroll around the city or catching a train. But I'm sure the ABS is working toward adopting your much more convincing methodology. Sheesh.

"Sydney alone has over a million people who are designated Chinese by nationality per se."

There are two types of statistics. Those you look up and those you make-up. I pretty sure your's are of the later variety. But you can prove me wrong by providing a reference to the basis of this unbelievable number.

Dear mhaze,

Thanks for the figures. Unfortunately, these figures do not correspond with what one sees around the streets and suburbs of Sydney. According to your figures we should expect to see 1 person in every 50 is Chinese in Sydney. Yet when I walk around Sydney it looks to me like the figure is closer to 2 in 3; and when I walk around Chatswood it looks to me like the figure is about 9 in 10.

So what's going on? Either I'm going blind or I can't count.

If you're correct that only 1 in 50 people in Sydney is Chinese then I'm at loss to explain why I keep seeing so many Chinese in Sydney. Admit it, you don't live in Sydney, do you?

Is there anyone reading this who actually lives in Sydney? What's your opinion? From your observations, do you think mhaze is correct in claiming that only 1 person in 50 in Sydney is Chinese?

My final comment would be that China itself by claiming territorial rights right up to the 12Nm borders of others countries near the Spratly's and firing on their citizens, China is risking considerable collapse of the relations it had previously spent $bns developing.

Those countries incl

Japan, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, and Thailand. All of whom have asked the US to intervene.

With China's economy looking to slip into recession, the last thing china needs is to be surrounded by hostile neighbors.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Do you see any parallels between China's predatory expansion into southeast Asia and that of Japan's in the years leading up to World War 2?

PS What do you think of mhaze's claim that only about 1 person in 50 in Sydney is Chinese?