Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

You're more generous than I am in your trust of
the current government.

The record of the Abbott-led Coalition government is
not good - especially as far as transparency and
accountability is concerned. And one of the pre-requisites
of a representative democracy is its citizens to have
access to information so that they can make informed choices.
If their reps deny access to the information the citizens
need to make these choices, or if they are given false
or misleading information, the democratic process becomes a
sham.

Citizens have the right of free speech and the public officials
need to tell the truth.

The current government has been sorely lacking in those
departments - and they did promise that they would be
a "no surprises," and accountable type of government.

Well guess what - One surprise after another -
and more to come!

Foxy,

You are amusing when you pretend to be dumb. The mental gymnastics could be easily managed by a child.

If people are prepared to pay to get asylum in Aus, but know that they will never get to Aus by boat, and simply waste their money trying, they will mostly never try, and the people smugglers will get no paying customers.

Secondly, if your delusion that the boats are still coming, where are the 200+ boats p.a. going? Certainly not to Aus or Indonesia. If it looks like a duck, walks and quacks like a duck its probably a duck. You are trying to tell me it's a grizzly bear.

Newscorp and Fairfax at least check their facts. The crappy ultra left whinge sites to which you constantly refer, wouldn't recognise a fact if it bit them.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Your opinion is well known on this forum.

You are of course full entitled to it.

However, mine happens to differ greatly from
yours but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't
continue to have robust discussions.

I look forward to our next one.
For me this one has now run its course.

Interesting times ahead prior to the next election.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

Dear Shadow Minister,

I see I finally got to you.

We're making progress.

Yay!

Shadow,

Obviously these asylum seekers have been paying the wrong people! Back in Howards day they should have been making donations to The Liberal Party just like the Mafia boss Frank Madafferi, the SMH published a photo of a smiling John Howard meeting with Madafferi at a Liberal Party fundraier. This is the same criminal who was denied a visa to enter Australia, only to have it granted by Liberal immigration minister Amanda Vanstone.
Shadow what is party policy on ministers granting visas to criminals?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-33306842