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Should We Pay People Smugglers?

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Foxy

You are delusional. In the last year of labor/greens incompetence there were about 5 boats arriving a week. In the last 18 months less than 20 boats have been turned around. What happened to > 300 boats that didn't set sail?

P.S. why don't you google Gillard's lies?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 27 June 2015 6:15:57 PM
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"....In the last 18 months less than 20 boats have been turned around."

SM thinks Morrison, and now Dutton, threw up the cloak of "operational matter" secrecy so that we would know how many boats have been intercepted. His count so far only represents the ones the govt hasn't been able to hide.

We have no way of knowing what's gone on up there.

Regarding "schoolboy logic"...we lefties couldn't hold a candle to you on that one, SM - recalling the pages and pages of puerile smutty name-calling to the Greens that you used to delight in around here.

Lol!
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 27 June 2015 8:23:07 PM
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Poirot,

Now the "I know nothing" defense. Really! Every time a boat is turned around it is in the news in Indonesia and in Aus. Seriously what do you suppose happened to the other boats. Were they sunk?

I am looking for a response above year 3 level.

Either they "disappeared" or they never came. Whatever is the reason, Abbott stopped them from arriving in Aus. People smuggler model is dead.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 27 June 2015 11:18:14 PM
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SM,
I do hope you are enjoying yourself with Paul and the girls.

I looked at my record with OLO and I started posting on the issue of the 'illegals' in 2006, so that is nearly 10 years and others were posting well before me.

Then the illegals advocates were making out the illegals were poor, persecuted persons who desperately needed our empathy. All a huge con job, as they flew to Malaysia on false documents then bribed their way into Indonesia and paid smugglers far in excess of air fares to get them to Aus. They were coached in what stories to tell our officials and, mugs we were, let them in.

It took a long time for the Libs to finally get tough enough to implement the Pacific Solution that stopped the boats from coming.

Then Labor abandoned that and in 6 years 50000 came in illegally with some arriving almost daily. At least 1200 drowned in the attempt, which is a Labor legacy.

Now the LNP has again stopped the boats, which happened a lot quicker than I expected, and it is almost unbelievable that some here are still arguing the issue. It seems Labor still has a policy of opening the borders once again.

I hope the issue continues as I am positive the electorate will not have that. The boats were stopped because people desired that and most people can see that the illegals are posers and fraudsters. Aussies are generous but do not like that being taken advantage of by shonks.

So don't argue too much now. Wait until the election and with a bit of burley we can get them biting again.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 27 June 2015 11:20:28 PM
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the one advantage of being a lefty that you can never be wrong. You can never stop the boats, oh you have not stopped the boats only diverted them. The science is settled with gw (sorry climate change) and now the heat is hiding in the ocean. Every prediction for the last 20 years has proven false. How many years at uni to learn how to be deceitful without blushing?
Posted by runner, Sunday, 28 June 2015 1:31:54 AM
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SM,

"I am looking for a response above year 3 level."

Coming from you, that's slightly amusing...considering your past regressions into primary school-speak.

"....Whatever is the reason, Abbott stopped them from arriving in Aus. People smuggler model is dead."

Which is what we'd expect you to say when it's clear the boats are still out there and the govt is caught red-handed paying smugglers to take them back.

Still, with this regime - anything goes.

runner,

".....The science is settled with gw (sorry climate change)...."

Yes, very clever...but it was one of Georgie Bush's right wing flunkies who came up with the idea to reframe "global warming" as "climate change" - as it was thought to sound less severe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz

Thanks for your run-by.....although your knowledge of climate science is only slightly more nuanced than my cat's.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 28 June 2015 8:00:39 AM
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