P,

I'm not sure what your petition from largely uninvolved activists is supposed to prove.

Still the 1200 to 2000 men, women and children trumps the discomfort of the remaining illegal immigrants and the handful of children left in detention.

SM,

The children who are presently still in detention are being held three times longer than they were previously.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/hundreds-of-children-abused-in-detention-report-20150212-13b10a.html

"The inquiry staff interviewed 1129 children over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments. It shows there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault.
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The damning report is the largest survey of children in detention ever conducted anywhere in the world. It calls for 119 children on Nauru to be removed into the Australian community; for Christmas Island to be shut down; and for an independent guardian for unaccompanied children."

Hundreds of kiddies reporting abuse - and you reckon the "authorities" are going to do the right thing if these assaults are reported solely "in house".

This is an example of what the govt does with things like that. The report was tabled months after it was received:

"It was tabled late on Wednesday night - the last possible day it could be tabled - after being handed to the Abbott government on November 11."

Your views are instructive. I find them repugnant in the extreme.

Shadow me old cobber, wrong again! I did not say, and do not think that Poirot was "desperate" in quoting the former Indonesian foreign minister Marty Natalegawa on matters relating to Indonesian/Australian relations. Naturally, as a former rather than a current FM he is not directly in the loop, but would still have knowledge of such. I was having a chuckle at you partner and fellow poster underfuhrer Beach who as I said is behind the times as usual, not realising Natalegawa is no longer Indonesian foreign minister. I am sure you would be quick to quote Rudd or Carr, as former foreign ministers if it suited your argument.

Now, how about answering my question; What is Liberal Party policy on ministers granting visas to criminals?

I ask that question considering Minister Vanstone (Liberal Party) overturned a decision not to grant a visa to a Mafia boss Frank Madafferi, later photographed with a smiling John Howard! How much did this crimnal kick into Liberal Party coffers, figures of $50,000 plus have been thrown around!
I know from your previous posts, you support corruption in the NSW Liberal Party, I would like to know to what extent you support Liberal corruption at a federal level.

Paul,

You clearly didn't see where the reference to MN came for before you stabbed Poirot in the back. I agree that the reference was puerile and desperate.

I take you feeble attempt to divert the thread as your admission that there was nothing illegal or even unusual in sending the boat back to Indonesia.

Also before I answer your reference to a decade old non event, Perhaps you could comment on the Pedophilia in the greens.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/greens-hit-by-sex-allegation-former-candidate-karel-solomon-in-police-sting/story-fnpn118l-1227424205855

Karel Solomon, a Greens member who contested the 2012 Marrickville local council election, was arrested on Tuesday afternoon in an undercover police operation.

Police allege Solomon, 61, made sexually explicit comments to a police officer posing as a 13-year-old girl online during the operation last month. He then planned to meet the girl at a Parramatta restaurant but was instead confronted by detectives. Karel was once a member of the Greens Petersham/Newtown Branch and was part of the “Green Team” in the 2012 Marrickville election.

As for your beat up, from your link and the Guardian:

"In November 2005, Vanstone intervened in Frank Madafferi’s deportation case and had it overturned. She and other politicians involved in the decision stated it was prompted by humanitarian concerns for Madafferi’s family should he be deported, not any donations or lobbying efforts. A police report into the case found there was no suggestion that Vanstone had acted corruptly or inappropriately."

And:

"However, it says there was no suggestion that Mr Howard knew of the man's alleged criminal links."

Poirot,

It does not take anyone with grey matter to work out that when you have thousands of people just put in detention, their average time in detention is less than the handful left now after 18 months of processing.

And the report you refer to comes from the same idiot that recommended a $350 000 payout for someone that brutally murdered his wife, and $100 000 to a convicted armed robber because he was denied a job at the ANZ bank.

SM,

"You clearly didn't see where the reference to MN came for before you stabbed Poirot in the back..."

Gawd!....Lol!

(And as for your latest responses to me - really, is that it?....it's hardly worth continuing)

But then again...

What do you reckon about this baby? She "was" in Australia - but the authorities rounded up her mum and dad and her in the middle of the night and flew them to Nauru. Guess where she now gets to sleep?

http://mobile.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/bringbackasha-campaign-gathers-momentum-as-government-attempts-to-silence-doctors/story-fnq2o7dd-1227425104652

"IF A five-month-old girl was being kept in a leaky tent surrounded by rats anywhere in Australia, she would be taken into government care. But this is government care, albeit 4500km from the mainland."

"Asha, whose pixelated face appeared on placards at snap rallies in Melbourne and Sydney this week, sleeps on a wet mattress. Her tent leaks “constantly”, according to her family’s lawyers."

This is the reality on Nauru — and it’s no place for a five-month-old girl."

Oh and....

"The worst part: Asha is not alone. Letters obtained by news.com.au show other children are being subjected to the increasing militarisation of Australia’s border protection officials. They’ve been rounded up in the middle of the night, handcuffed with cable ties and made to strip in front of officers. They’re on an island far from public view. The boats have stopped, but at what cost?"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-24/wickham-point-asylum-seekers-transferred-to-nauru-advocates/6570222

"Three babies are among more than 40 asylum seekers transferred to Nauru early this morning from the Wickham Point detention centre near Darwin, an advocacy group says.

Darwin Asylum Seeker Support and Advocacy Network (DASSAN) spokesman Ben Pynt said the early morning transfer included several single adult males and females, along with two families.

"Asylum seekers have been reporting since about 2:00am that men and women have been handcuffed and removed from the centre," he said."

What sort of goons do this to kids who are already on Australian soil.

And what sort of mentality dismisses people who seek to protect them as "activists"?

Do we deem those who stand up for abused Aussie kids as activists - who deserve some sort of disrespect for their efforts?

No.

You might be happy that Australia now treats humans like this, SM...I'm not.