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Should We Pay People Smugglers?

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Fox, "why would we think a government with that much power will stop at people or boats?"

Gosh! What do you imagine they might do? LOL

Kevin Rudd, his Foreign Minister Bob Carr and a host of his ministers freely admitted that Labor got it very wrong, admitting that a large proportion of asylum-seekers are merely economic migrants.

Tony Abbott has succeeded where Gillard and Rudd both failed.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 28 June 2015 7:10:16 PM
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Foxy,

Agreed, your lies, rhetoric and slogans don't work.

Poirot,

Far less people have been injured or killed under the coalition compared to the green/labor debacle. Even Labor is talking about keeping the successful and humane turnaround policy.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 28 June 2015 7:49:35 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Yes, at a time of lies, rhetoric,
and slogans telling the truth is
considered a punishable act.

"The truth is incontrovertible.
Malice may attack it,
Ignorance may deride it,
but in the end, there it is."
(Winston Churchill).

Wake up Australia!
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 28 June 2015 10:52:39 PM
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Foxy,

Then why are you ducking the truth?

Three incontrovertible truths:

The boats have stopped arriving in Aus,
The asylum seekers have stopped drowning,
The detention centers are emptying.

And finally it looks like Labor have been mugged by reality and will be adopting the boats turn back policy.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 29 June 2015 6:20:31 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

I'll repeat what was said earlier -

"Apart from the mental gymnastics it takes
to connect the towbacks, pushbacks, detention
camps and paying people smugglers and reach the
conclusion - "the boats have stopped." What has
actually stopped?

We don't really know due to the secrecy of
"on water operations."

And as the AIM News pointed out -
"For Tony Abbott to have any hope of winning another election -
he needs the boats to continue. That way he and his
colleagues get all the favourite headlines that the
Murdoch media can produce about how "tough" he is and the
gullible voters buy it hook line and sinker."

Now we have another strategy being used to garner even more
favourite headlines - that of "our security." We're in great
danger in this country - don't you know that - we should be
afraid, very afraid - and the government will protect us.
All we have to do is vote for them again at the next election -
you betcha!

I don't expect you to understand - but you really should
read more than just what's printed in the Murdoch media.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 June 2015 10:43:52 AM
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Dear Foxy,

There are times when we just have to cop it: moral/legal/political or not, paying the boat crews to go back to Indonesia is probably working. Is it just possible that there is very little 'on' water matters' that the Government feels it has to be secretive about ? It could be that the word has got out amongst would-be boat-people to save their money and don't get on the next boat, just fill out the forms and wait like everybody else.

If so, then we can turn our attention to campaigning for a boost to the annual emergency-refugee intake, i.e. Rohingya and Syrians primarily, and the more expeditious processing of refugee application forms. Admittedly, those genuine refuges will probably arrive in Australia far more penniless than those who, in earlier times, could pay their way.

One lives in hope, but perhaps those genuine refugees will have learnt thoroughly the futility of religious extremism. Certainly, I would rather see a hundred Rohingya arriving in Australia than one returning jihadi, on his way to jail.

Love,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 29 June 2015 12:09:28 PM
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